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The Lauri Thread

SoberasHotRod said:
The Lauri questions are back in full swing:

- Is he too good for us to safely keep our top 8 protected pick?
- Should we look to trade him? What is his trade value?
- Can we sit him if healthy and is on his way to All Star/All NBA?
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1 no we've hardly played good teams. I don't think the pick is in jeopardy at all
2 no why ?? we want good players to start competing from next year on. He's unique, a great dude, on board with the plan and wants to be part of Utah. Don't care what his trade value is, because you're not going to get anything near as good as he is within the next 5-6 years from it. If we trade Lauri everything is kicked down the road another 3 years.
3 Can't see that we'll need to
 
FalseFlagg K said:
1 no we've hardly played good teams. I don't think the pick is in jeopardy at all
2 no why ?? we want good players to start competing from next year on. He's unique, a great dude, on board with the plan and wants to be part of Utah. Don't care what his trade value is, because you're not going to get anything near as good as he is within the next 5-6 years from it. If we trade Lauri everything is kicked down the road another 3 years.
3 Can't see that we'll need to
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FWIW, I generally agree with you, but just don't feel as strongly.

- We need to be bottom 4 to guarantee a top 8 pick and bottom 6 for me to feel pretty comfortable. There are a bunch of bad teams right now, so bottom 4 is far from guaranteed, but I think we'll be bottom 6.

- I wouldn't want to trade Lauri for a bunch of picks, but I think if you can get a young promising player like Castle, Harper, or Ausar then I could get behind that.

- I think we have some trimming around the edges before we would need to full on sit him. For example just play him less minutes or trade Nurkic, or many other things. I do think we'll sit him towards the end of the year to maximize our lottery odds, it's just a matter of how soon we get desperate.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
FWIW, I generally agree with you, but just don't feel as strongly.

- We need to be bottom 4 to guarantee a top 8 pick and bottom 6 for me to feel pretty comfortable. There are a bunch of bad teams right now, so bottom 4 is far from guaranteed, but I think we'll be bottom 6.

- I wouldn't want to trade Lauri for a bunch of picks, but I think if you can get a young promising player like Castle, Harper, or Ausar then I could get behind that.

- I think we have some trimming around the edges before we would need to full on sit him. For example just play him less minutes or trade Nurkic, or many other things. I do think we'll sit him towards the end of the year to maximize our lottery odds, it's just a matter of how soon we get desperate.
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yeah i think he'll sit games toward the end partially to look after his body maybe partially tanking. But i doubt we need to in order to stay in the top 8. I can't see another team giving someone like Harper etc. I'd certainly want to think about were that the case.

we'll know more about how bad we are and other teams by about 25 maybe 30 games
 
I love, LOVE, L-O-V-E Lauri, but I think we have to trade him before the deadline -- and the sooner the better b/c (1) he's going to generate too many wins, (2) his value is so high because of how well he's playing, and (3) gives the acquiring team time to really benefit from him during the year and tee up playoff aspirations.

The more I think of the team we have now and the future we can build assuming we can get into the top 5 again for the 2026 draft (which I think has to be the committed goal), the more I think we make the trade for Detroit work and convince them to include Ausar Thompson. I can't believe they really think he's good enough to be truly untouchable. I think we make him the key piece of a trade and it's him, Tobias Harris and a 2026 first. I think that price should be enough to convince them to part with Ausar Thompson. And I think for the impact he could have on our team, he'd be worth it. This still leaves them with some assets to make other moves down the line and they position themselves to stay at the top of the East, and not just for this year.
 
Right now Lauri's is playing like an all NBA player. Most nights he is the best player in the floor. You have a chance to win when you have the best player in the floor.

I'm not sure if Lauri can keep this up, but if he does then it's going to be a problem for the tank.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Right now Lauri's is playing like an all NBA player. Most nights he is the best player in the floor. You have a chance to win when you have the best player in the floor.

I'm not sure if Lauri can keep this up, but if he does then it's going to be a problem for the tank.
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He needs a nice random "pulled groin" injury, miss a few games against the bottom feeders. If we end up blowing this and OKC gets our pick and they end up drafting another solid player or trading it for a better guy to just cement their dynasty then the Jazz may as well sell the name back to NOP and change our name to "NBA Farm Team". Because that is all we have become.
 
At least now we can stop hearing the morons who think Lauri is just worth a first or two and some throwaway players. If you averaging 31 you getting traded for bare minimum 4 picks.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
crazy that he has spent the heart of his prime age 25-28 where he has been absolutely elite on a ****** team with no direction. seems like that would be incredibly depressing.
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The Favors trade has created so many years of lameness. I wish we could just fully win the games we should win and let the lottery balls do what they will without fear of losing our pick.
 
It may be better for the franchise to reset and trade Lauri, but that simply isn't happening so I don't even want to entertain the discussion of trading him. It may be best to just look at the Favors pick as a sunk cost. A major mistake from the past that we're paying for now, but hey, we have Lauri.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
crazy that he has spent the heart of his prime age 25-28 where he has been absolutely elite on a ****** team with no direction. seems like that would be incredibly depressing.
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From the outside looking in, it never made much sense for Lauri to be on a tanking team. It's why the national media heads have consistently been talking about a Lauri trade as if it's the default plan. Great players in their prime do not mix with tanking, and the only reasonable outcomes are 1) you are able to tank, but it requires a bad season from your star or 2) the star plays like a star, but it kills the tank.

The ship has sailed on a Lauri trade.
 
KqWIN said:
From the outside looking in, it never made much sense for Lauri to be on a tanking team. It's why the national media heads have consistently been talking about a Lauri trade as if it's the default plan. Great players in their prime do not mix with tanking, and the only reasonable outcomes are 1) you are able to tank, but it requires a bad season from your star or 2) the star plays like a star, but it kills the tank.

The ship has sailed on a Lauri trade.
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The first half of your post brings me to the opposite conclusion of the conclusion.

Lauri playing well doesn't mean the ship has sailed. The ship is just arriving to port.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
At least now we can stop hearing the morons who think Lauri is just worth a first or two and some throwaway players. If you averaging 31 you getting traded for bare minimum 4 picks.
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I have been saying his value is so much higher than most of the board. It has been annoying to get so much push back that he is a negative contract and that we would be lucky to get 2 firsts for him. Go back and listen to the trade series podcast about trading Lauri. Pretty poor trade values proposed and agreed to there. Luv the podcast but value is too fickle on this board.
 
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