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The New American Center | Esquire Magazine/ NBC

I am also a pickup populist. Of an eight bar graph (4 left and 4 right) I am the first one on the right.
 
I'm one of the MBA Middle, whatever MBA is. I am part of the 13% that is defined by a strong live-and-let-live mentality. I am part of the new American Center.

I'm not sure why Duck is proud to be lumped in with the whacko's, but whatever. The closer we, as a society, get to the center, the sooner Bill Mahr, Sean Hannity, Keith Olberman, and Rush Limbaugh will cease to be.
 
Bleeding heart liberal. Not a part of the Center. Lol.
 
Bleeding Heart as well. I'm surprised I got that result as I'm pro-life and am skeptical of government over-reach.
 
Bleeding Heart as well. I'm surprised I got that result as I'm pro-life and am skeptical of government over-reach.

Really? I've toiled between pro-life and pro-choice. What's the reason behind you being pro-life?


Also, I figured I'd be more right wing as well.
 
I am also a pickup populist. Of an eight bar graph (4 left and 4 right) I am the first one on the right.

If you mean the first one to the right of the middle that was mine too.
 
If anyone else read the article about the "New American Center" I would be interested in your thoughts. I think that, despite all the fancy graphics, it is nothing new and hasn't been anything new for 40+ years. I think you would have to go back to the 50's to find a much different description of "moderate".
 
Really? I've toiled between pro-life and pro-choice. What's the reason behind you being pro-life?

Because the cut-off for what makes a human a human is completely arbitrary for the pro-choice movement. There is no logical connection between a fetus's dependence on the mother for its survival, and the mother's inherent right to end the life of the fetus. After all, pregnancies don't just happen. They're the result of sexual intercourse that you should be prepared for if you want to be sexually active. I've had long discussions with pro-choicers over the years, including one with One Brow. And the best justification he could come up with was an analogy to a person who sees someone dying, but chooses to withhold help. In pro-choicers view, it is completely within the person's right whether or not to help, and thus dependency is always an imposition and is always a sufficient justification for ending said dependency. That's not exactly the most compassionate view of morality, and it is a far cry from the left's pretension of abortion access being a basic human right. Which isn't surprising since the pro-choice's battle cry is "my body, my choice", which is the same as "I'll do what I want". It ignores all the complaints about the right of a human not to be killed due to no fault of his or her own.

But I'm perfectly happy with exceptions for rape, incest, and out of considerations for the mother's health. There is also the matter of practicality of law. If abortions are banned, then some women will try to perform the procedure themselves. And that's terrible. So I'm willing to live with universal allowances for first-trimester abortions. But I don't have to like it.

So yeah, Islam got it right this time. :p
 
Because the cut-off for what makes a human a human is completely arbitrary for the pro-choice movement. There is no logical connection between a fetus's dependence on the mother for its survival, and the mother's inherent right to end the life of the fetus. After all, pregnancies don't just happen. They're the result of sexual intercourse that you should be prepared for if you want to be sexually active. I've had long discussions with pro-choicers over the years, including one with One Brow. And the best justification he could come up with was an analogy to a person who sees someone dying, but chooses to withhold help. In pro-choicers view, it is completely within the person's right whether or not to help, and thus dependency is always an imposition and is always a sufficient justification for ending said dependency. That's not exactly the most compassionate view of morality, and it is a far cry from the left's pretension of abortion access being a basic human right. Which isn't surprising since the pro-choice's battle cry is "my body, my choice", which is the same as "I'll do what I want". It ignores all the complaints about the right of a human not to be killed due to no fault of his or her own.

But I'm perfectly happy with exceptions for rape, incest, and out of considerations for the mother's health. There is also the matter of practicality of law. If abortions are banned, then some women will try to perform the procedure themselves. And that's terrible. So I'm willing to live with universal allowances for first-trimester abortions. But I don't have to like it.

So yeah, Islam got it right this time. :p

Perfect. Sums up my stance as well.
 
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