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KqWIN said:
This is what I was remembering. $25M as the midpoint and $20-30M as the deal zone makes a lot of sense. If the Jazz are really at $25M and Kessler is at $30M they should be able to bridge that gap....but I actually think it's more like $20M and $30M and they just need to meet in the middle at $25M. Many ways that can make $30M feel the same to the Jazz as $25M with incentives, front loading, options/NG etc.

$15M is just a ridiculous starting point. I know that reflects his cap hold but that seems like a disrespectful number.
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Right. I did hear from someone on X that said they heard at one point that they wanted north of 5/150M.

So I think it could have gone like this:

Walker - Lets talk extension.
Jazz - We gotta keep cap space but we will do 15M.
Walker - death stare
Jazz - silence
Walker - How about 35M then!
Jazz - Well we would have come up to 20M but lets just talk next summer.
Walker - Frustratedly looks up Luka passing highlights and then checks real estate in LA on Zillow.
 
KqWIN said:
This is what I was remembering. $25M as the midpoint and $20-30M as the deal zone makes a lot of sense. If the Jazz are really at $25M and Kessler is at $30M they should be able to bridge that gap....but I actually think it's more like $20M and $30M and they just need to meet in the middle at $25M. Many ways that can make $30M feel the same to the Jazz as $25M with incentives, front loading, options/NG etc.

$15M is just a ridiculous starting point. I know that reflects his cap hold but that seems like a disrespectful number.
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Like if the Jazz really did want space next summer... you could start Walker at 20M, give max raises, and give him a PO for year 5. Would work out to 4/90 or 5/117M and he gets the added benefit of the 27M PO if things don't work out... or gets on the market earlier and really cashes in.

If you really need $5M in flexibility... go ahead and decline the Cody Williams option.
 
Sounds like Tari Eason isn't getting extended. So there is a name we can throw some money at I guess.

The FA list next year:

Trae Young - Player option
Tari Eason
Benny Mathurin
Ivey
Duren
Austin Reaves
Coby White


Then a bunch of guys like:
Keon Ellis
Quentin Grimes
Ayo Dosunmu
Sexton and Collins

IDK not a market I'm super excited to try and get someone for 45M instead of the 30M we would have had.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Sounds like Tari Eason isn't getting extended. So there is a name we can throw some money at I guess.

The FA list next year:

Trae Young - Player option
Tari Eason
Benny Mathurin
Ivey
Duren
Austin Reaves
Coby White


Then a bunch of guys like:
Keon Ellis
Quentin Grimes
Ayo Dosunmu
Sexton and Collins

IDK not a market I'm super excited to try and get someone for 45M instead of the 30M we would have had.
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I think it would be funny as double H E hockey sticks if we brought Collins and Sexton back.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Tre seems to be growing up. Also, Lillard isn’t a fraction of the place-setter that Trae is. He was also past his prime.
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Dont think Giannis works well with a "place setter" (at least it's not optimal if the tradeoff is a terrible defender). You want defense and shooting around him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Sounds like Tari Eason isn't getting extended. So there is a name we can throw some money at I guess.

The FA list next year:

Trae Young - Player option
Tari Eason
Benny Mathurin
Ivey
Duren
Austin Reaves
Coby White


Then a bunch of guys like:
Keon Ellis
Quentin Grimes
Ayo Dosunmu
Sexton and Collins

IDK not a market I'm super excited to try and get someone for 45M instead of the 30M we would have had.
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Mark Williams also a RFA. I know he has health concerns, but still a very good center option for teams who need someone.
 
Assume Eason doesn't get extended. I saw earlier last week they thought it would get done... How much are you paying him in FA? What makes Houston blink? Assume he is healthy this year and makes mild improvements... nothing crazy.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Mark Williams also a RFA. I know he has health concerns, but still a very good center option for teams who need someone.
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Yeah. I assume if he is healthy and you offered anything reasonable that it would get matched. Regardless... he should be on the list.

I think he is the budget version where you go like 3/50M or something and pray he doesn't miss 60% of the games.
 
I just believe Kessler's side is probably the side being most set in their position because the market just dictates that. The list of free agent centers is pretty trash next year. It's Kessler/Duren/Williams, and that's it if you want a starting caliber 5 and Williams hardly qualifies with his injury history.

Nick Richards, Robert Williams, Zach Collins, Moritz Wagner, DeAndre Ayton are kind of the next, but they are all backups. Hell if Nurkic has a good year he might be in demand as a slightly more than the minimum type of player.

Always a risk because one of the teams with space and a need for a 5 are the Lakers, and they can always go star chasing and not have the money for Kessler. Charlotte is the other team. Maybe they draft a big in the 2026 draft or decide they dont want to max a 5 when they have to pay Miller the next season.
 
Would you rather have Christian Braun or Keegan Murray?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Sounds like Tari Eason isn't getting extended. So there is a name we can throw some money at I guess.

The FA list next year:

Trae Young - Player option
Tari Eason
Benny Mathurin
Ivey
Duren
Austin Reaves
Coby White


Then a bunch of guys like:
Keon Ellis
Quentin Grimes
Ayo Dosunmu
Sexton and Collins

IDK not a market I'm super excited to try and get someone for 45M instead of the 30M we would have had.
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We should bring sexton back


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I would say, as Jazz fans, we want Ayton to have a really solid season. Something that makes him opt out of his deal and an attractive option to one of these teams with cap-space that needs a 5, but might not want to spend for a top shelf 5.
 
I think Braun benefits hugely from playing next to Jokic and being the 3rd or 4th option. He’s a high-energy 3D wing. I like that he gets out on the break. I like that he stays healthy. He’s nothing special with the ball in his hands.

I guess if you put Braun’s deal next to RJ Barrett’s it starts to look okay.
 
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