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I'm really enjoying the NBA right now. I think the overall product is better than ever – even with tanking and some questionable officiating principles.

I mean it's mid December. Not that long ago, you'd see a **** ton of lazy blowouts played at 50% speed this time of the year. Bored guys walking around, taking whole possessions off, stars sitting with "load management". The games simply didn't matter and the whole league was sleepwalking until the AS break.

Now? There's several great games almost every night. Teams go hard, stars are playing if they're healthy, the game itself moves fast and it seems like there's more variety in offenses again. It's not just about "launching endless 3pt shots" – team defenses have gotten incredibly good, plus the perimeter is patrolled by long, fast athletes (I know, we're the exception). Their #1 aim is taking those open 3's away.

Ball-stopping for dumb ISOs has almost disappeared and you can't halt fast breaks with take fouls anymore (which is the best and most important rule change in decades, by the way).

Also seems like the league on the whole is much more professional these days. The competition for minutes is tougher, with new guys coming in from all over the world. The hard-partying "knucklehead" who type who acts entitled is almost extinct.
 
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Tremendous Upside said:
I'm really enjoying the NBA right now. I think the overall product is better than ever – even with tanking and some questionable officiating principles.

I mean it's mid December. Not that long ago, you'd see a **** ton of lazy blowouts played at 50% speed this time of the year. Bored guys walking around, taking whole possessions off, stars sitting with "load management". The games simply didn't matter and the whole league was sleepwalking until the AS break.

Now? There's several great games almost every night. Teams go hard, stars are playing if they're healthy, the game itself moves fast and it seems like there's more variety in offenses again. It's not just about "launching endless 3pt shots" – team defenses have gotten incredibly good, plus the perimeter is patrolled by long, fast athletes (I know, we're the exception). Their #1 aim is taking those open 3's away.

Ball-stopping for dumb ISOs has almost disappeared and you can't halt fast breaks with take fouls anymore (which is the best and most important rule change in decades, by the way).

Also seems like the league on the whole is much more professional these days. The competition for minutes is tougher, with new guys coming in from all over the world. The hard-partying "knucklehead" who type who acts entitled is almost extinct.
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Handlogten's Heros said:
I think they are well positioned to break the record. They have so much depth and are so locked in.
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I think they will have to be really well set up by the time they have like 15 games left, as I could see some wholesale resting of main players for the playoff if they have secured to overall #1 seed by then. Then it might pull them down a bit. But if they choose to keep the pedal to the metal they will very likely smash the record. Crazy effective team. Good shot at being the best team the league has ever seen, at least for one season. I kind of hope they do it. I don't see the same showboating and disrespect I felt from the Warriors and even Bulls teams.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think they will have to be really well set up by the time they have like 15 games left, as I could see some wholesale resting of main players for the playoff if they have secured to overall #1 seed by then. Then it might pull them down a bit. But if they choose to keep the pedal to the metal they will very likely smash the record. Crazy effective team. Good shot at being the best team the league has ever seen, at least for one season. I kind of hope they do it. I don't see the same showboating and disrespect I felt from the Warriors and even Bulls teams.
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I think they will keep the pedal to the metal and not rest anyone if they have a chance at the record. Just my guess.
Will be a fun story to watch as the season goes on.
Right now (24-2) they are on pace to set a new record. Very little margin of error though. The record is 73-9 right?
 
fishonjazz said:
I think they will keep the pedal to the metal and not rest anyone if they have a chance at the record. Just my guess.
Will be a fun story to watch as the season goes on.
Right now (24-2) they are on pace to set a new record. Very little margin of error though. The record is 73-9 right?
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Yep that is the record. That is why I think if they are far enough ahead they will likely rest some guys and could come up a little short. I think 69 wins is most likely at this point, which is nothing to scoff at. I think they would take 69 wins and a ring rather than go all out for 74 wins at the risk of burning themselves out. The 73-9 warriors are a cautionary tale, best record in the regular season, lost in the finals after taking a 3-1 lead. Granted it took a legendary effort from arguably the best player of all time to do it, but still, the risk remains. I could see them coasting the final dozen or so games to be well-rested for the playoffs and getting an extra couple of losses in that mix. But who knows, if they are just comfortably slaughtering everyone without much effort, why let up? What are the fewest losses even possible in the modern NBA? At the current pace they are on track for 75.7 wins, so a record of 76-6 or 75-7. Is it possible to see a team lose only, say 5 games in a season? I would love to see it once, that would be crazy. And yeah, you are right, it will be the most fun story of the season, and maybe the decade or longer, to watch. At the current pace they could "let up" just a little and "coast" to 70 wins. That is wild to think about.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yep that is the record. That is why I think if they are far enough ahead they will likely rest some guys and could come up a little short. I think 69 wins is most likely at this point, which is nothing to scoff at. I think they would take 69 wins and a ring rather than go all out for 74 wins at the risk of burning themselves out. The 73-9 warriors are a cautionary tale, best record in the regular season, lost in the finals after taking a 3-1 lead. Granted it took a legendary effort from arguably the best player of all time to do it, but still, the risk remains. I could see them coasting the final dozen or so games to be well-rested for the playoffs and getting an extra couple of losses in that mix. But who knows, if they are just comfortably slaughtering everyone without much effort, why let up? What are the fewest losses even possible in the modern NBA? At the current pace they are on track for 75.7 wins, so a record of 76-6 or 75-7. Is it possible to see a team lose only, say 5 games in a season? I would love to see it once, that would be crazy. And yeah, you are right, it will be the most fun story of the season, and maybe the decade or longer, to watch. At the current pace they could "let up" just a little and "coast" to 70 wins. That is wild to think about.
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... and then they could win a championship, collect three lottery picks in the upcoming draft, and get ready to three-peat.

We're seeing some ****, man.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think they will have to be really well set up by the time they have like 15 games left, as I could see some wholesale resting of main players for the playoff if they have secured to overall #1 seed by then. Then it might pull them down a bit. But if they choose to keep the pedal to the metal they will very likely smash the record. Crazy effective team. Good shot at being the best team the league has ever seen, at least for one season. I kind of hope they do it. I don't see the same showboating and disrespect I felt from the Warriors and even Bulls teams.
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Thing is they have alternated rest or had guys out all season. I think they will be able to win most nights against average and below average NBA teams while resting their guys to save them when they need to.

They've had a little bit of a cupcake schedule so we will see I guess. They are just a machine.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
That's not possible for a 19 year old
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So the people that didn't think Kon deserved to be a top 5 pick likely won't understand why that type of guy will continue to get better.

He's much closer to Devin Booker than he is Luke Kennard (a comp thrown at me multiple times during my Kon lovefests on here and twitter lol).

Or you can think about it like Jalen Brunson. In college you wouldn't have thought that guy could be as good as he was with the Mavs... with the Mavs you wouldn't think that guy would be as good as he is with the Knicks.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yep that is the record. That is why I think if they are far enough ahead they will likely rest some guys and could come up a little short. I think 69 wins is most likely at this point, which is nothing to scoff at. I think they would take 69 wins and a ring rather than go all out for 74 wins at the risk of burning themselves out. The 73-9 warriors are a cautionary tale, best record in the regular season, lost in the finals after taking a 3-1 lead. Granted it took a legendary effort from arguably the best player of all time to do it, but still, the risk remains. I could see them coasting the final dozen or so games to be well-rested for the playoffs and getting an extra couple of losses in that mix. But who knows, if they are just comfortably slaughtering everyone without much effort, why let up? What are the fewest losses even possible in the modern NBA? At the current pace they are on track for 75.7 wins, so a record of 76-6 or 75-7. Is it possible to see a team lose only, say 5 games in a season? I would love to see it once, that would be crazy. And yeah, you are right, it will be the most fun story of the season, and maybe the decade or longer, to watch. At the current pace they could "let up" just a little and "coast" to 70 wins. That is wild to think about.
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I think they try for 74 wins and a title. I bet they would think it would be pretty cool to be the best team in the history of the world
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So the people that didn't think Kon deserved to be a top 5 pick likely won't understand why that type of guy will continue to get better.

He's much closer to Devin Booker than he is Luke Kennard (a comp thrown at me multiple times during my Kon lovefests on here and twitter lol).

Or you can think about it like Jalen Brunson. In college you wouldn't have thought that guy could be as good as he was with the Mavs... with the Mavs you wouldn't think that guy would be as good as he is with the Knicks.
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Crazy that Cam Spencer is exploding at the same time too. The American Whites are on the rise
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Crazy that Cam Spencer is exploding at the same time too. The American Whites are on the rise
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I can't be held responsible for the takes I will have when we sign Pat Spencer this offseason. We need to get a piece of the Spencer household.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Crazy that Cam Spencer is exploding at the same time too. The American Whites are on the rise
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Spencer has been a crazy revelation. Really fun player to watch.

The way he's always in full control really reminds me of Steph. You can't speed him up or give him any space. Plus he seems to create some kind of an advantage every time he puts the ball on the floor.
 
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