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True but given his stature in the league and his abilities that's a huge drop-off. Did you watch the video? The Lakers are way better without him, as per advanced stats too. So washed wasn't the right word, it just looks like he's done seriously playing basketball.

I mean, this is year 23, he's obviously not nearly as good as he used to be, but like... Okay.
 
I think one of the stories of the season is Jalen William's wrist. He just doesn't look confident in his shot right now. He made his first three in his last 6 games last night and is averaging less than 1 made three per game. OKC doesn't look nearly as scary right now.

I remember how much Deron's wrist slowed down his career. He went from the best PG in the NBA to just a good player.
 
I think one of the stories of the season is Jalen William's wrist. He just doesn't look confident in his shot right now. He made his first three in his last 6 games last night and is averaging less than 1 made three per game. OKC doesn't look nearly as scary right now.

I remember how much Deron's wrist slowed down his career. He went from the best PG in the NBA to just a good player.

So Jalen is definitely not playing at his best, but even before this season you could make the argument that he is overrated. I’m very interested to see how Presti navigates their salary situation. He’s obviously a very analytically focused guy, I wonder if Jalen is the one to eventually go.
 
So Jalen is definitely not playing at his best, but even before this season you could make the argument that he is overrated. I’m very interested to see how Presti navigates their salary situation. He’s obviously a very analytically focused guy, I wonder if Jalen is the one to eventually go.
Trade Cody for Jalen and Jazz pick and call it good :):):):)
 
So Jalen is definitely not playing at his best, but even before this season you could make the argument that he is overrated. I’m very interested to see how Presti navigates their salary situation. He’s obviously a very analytically focused guy, I wonder if Jalen is the one to eventually go.

I'm not sure why you would consider him overrated?
 
He's not super efficient in a higher usage role, his adjusted lineup data is not great, and he's probably stealing some credit as defender. Still a very good player, but I'm skeptical he's a top 15 player.

Yikes, I don't think he's overrated at all. He is the offensive hub in the non Shae minutes. He is also a very good defender and extremely versatile. Ultimately he was the second best player on a championship team, and has carried them to wins in multiple playoff games when Shae was off.
 
He's not super efficient in a higher usage role, his adjusted lineup data is not great, and he's probably stealing some credit as defender. Still a very good player, but I'm skeptical he's a top 15 player.

I agree. However, who said he was a top 15 player? OKC fans?

I mean the guy is as pure a role player as they come.
 
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