That's fine. I'm simply saying that from my perspective (and probably the perspective of many others) this "sky is falling" act is getting pretty routine. I'm willing to wager that you are wrong about the dam breaking. Six months from now this current constitutional crisis will be nothing but a footnote in the long litany of constitutional crisis we have supposedly been through. I absolutely agree that Trump is different from other presidents and that some (but not all) of those differences are negative. Where I think we strongly differ is that from my perspective a large number of those negatives are a result of the insane responses of his political enemies. In the past most conservative leaders have caved to the sorts of pressures that the left has become so expert in using. Trump is different. When they attack him in these sorts of ways instead of backing down, he doubles down. It's resulted in a very ugly experience, but I prefer it to the alternative of being governed by increasingly extreme leftists. I do not prefer it to all possible alternatives, though. I would be much more satisfied with right of center leadership.
So far the only Democratic Presidential candidate who I think I could bring myself to vote for is Gabbard. In the limited amount I've seen of her she seems to be a breath of fresh air. I would be strongly opposed to a Warren presidency. Many of her proposals are flat-out socialist.
Well, we are really very, very far apart. I like to think I am looking at this as an example of a president who has his interests, not his country's best interests, in mind. As such, I would hope I would oppose any president of either party who was so inclined. And it's not that self interest is a crime. But I must call into question his actions that serve his particular self interest. He welcomed help from our number one geopolitical adversary in the 2016 election.
Now, treason is normally defined within the context of actual war, lending aid and comfort to the enemy, so welcoming Russian assistance was not treason, I guess, but I still see it as a treasonous stance. I cannot accept that. If it's true that he told the Russians he was unconcerned with their interference, that's just like he's doubling down on his treasonous mind set, from my perspective.
And I think his behavior overall, I can't summarize it here, but
@colton listed plenty of poor behavior to jump start this thread, is reason aplenty to go after him every which way possible. Politics is a blood sport anyway. In this instance, I happen to believe it is justified to go at him with every weapon at hand. He IS the constitutional crisis. I accept that you do not find this political warfare justified, that is partly why we are so far apart.
Here's a guy who sat next to the new Ukraine president, at the UN, and urged him to make up with Putin. The guy who invaded his country. I'll bet that was music to Putin's ears. I swear, it is well nigh impossible for me to see Trump as being on our side.
I suppose this all rests on how I was raised, and had instilled in me ideas as to what America represented, the ideals we upheld, etc. It may be quite naive of me. And I'm not suggesting that you are lacking in your own feelings for America. Except for the obvious trolls, people of different political persuasions partake in these discussions because they care about America.
