Hotdog
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Im not Trolling. Im just here saying 'Hey'
And you are a dick like Trump. He is your perfect President. You Tweet and like to talk trash too.
The official "let's impeach Trump" thread
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Im not Trolling. Im just here saying 'Hey'
And you are a dick like Trump. He is your perfect President. You Tweet and like to talk trash too.
Not a liberal.
The Thriller
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Do Trumpers think that people like Taylor, Vindman, Fiona Hill, Yovanovitch, and Donald’s hand picked donor/ambassador, Sondland, all “ganged up” against him to prevent his re-election in 2020 because the Democrats can’t win fairly? Really??? You think Bolten who described Rudy as a “hand grenade” wants Warren to be president?
Why can’t impeachment be because... Donald committed impeachable offenses? I know it’s crazy and everything has to be a conspiracy for you guys. But maybe Donald just got caught committing impeachable offenses similar to those he committed in 2015-2016?
Why can’t impeachment be because... Donald committed impeachable offenses? I know it’s crazy and everything has to be a conspiracy for you guys. But maybe Donald just got caught committing impeachable offenses similar to those he committed in 2015-2016?
The Thriller
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Let's clarify why Schiff cut them off, they were reportedly asking questions about who he spoke to in hopes of outing the whistleblower. Which could be construed as witness tampering. So yeah, not good, and I’m glad Schiff shut it down.
The whistleblower shouldn’t face death threats and harm because Republicans out his name. The whistleblower is entitled to protection and anonymity. Republicans don’t have a defense and instead are taking out their frustration on witnesses and whistleblowers.
I have a better idea, stand up for the constitution that they swore an oath to. Trump will pass, but the blight on our democracy that Republicans are leaving certainly won't.
Hotdog
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Pretty weak impeachable offense though right? You dont want a win on a technicality do you?
The Thriller
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Yep. Kruse called it:
Also, remember how last week Republicans were upset that they didn't have access to these hearings? Wow, it's almost like their protest wasn't very sincere...
The Thriller
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The Founding Fathers certainly didn't think foreign interference in our elections was a "weak" impeachable offense. See the article below to see what they thought.
Plus, you need to compounded how this ties up our president into international affairs, bribery, attempts to exonerate Russia, and how our national security is hurt by this entire debacle. I honestly can't think of a worse impeachable offense outside of perhaps war related crimes, can you?
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/14/7325...-in-u-s-elections-dates-from-nations-founding
Hotdog
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Our founding fathers were a bunch of old white men. They also had slaves. Their ideas werent the greatest.
I dont believe in putting up walls and alienating ourselves from the rest of the world. Our country effects the rest of the world so much that maybe they should have a say in our elections dont you think?
The Thriller
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You're moving the goalposts. They were the ones that drew up what was impeachable. Clearly, they didn't find what Trump did as "weak."
You're done. No need to response with nonsense anymore. Take the loss buddy.
Can we circle this for a second?
What were the questions that were disallowed, or prohibited from asking?
A list would be perfect, please and thank you
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Hotdog
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I thought I just said something that put us on common ground. Id love to know which part you disagreed with. No goal posts moved at all.
The constitution is just a piece of paper. Im not going to worship it. It can be changed. I dont see anything wrong with making deals with other countries to help weed out corruption. I also dont have a problem with people from other countries having a say in our elections. Nationalism is gross.
I dont tweet, but I can be a dick to trolls sometimes, I would not be a good president either... Although I would be far less embarrassing then Trump. I would also be far more honest and transparent. But I am pretty sure about 99% of adults would be more honest than Trump.
North Korea no nukes
Middle East peace
Beautiful wall built
Country unified
Strong alliances
Troops out of foreign conflict
Respected around the e
No foreign influence
Deficit eliminated
MAGA
Red
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If our elections were determined by popular vote alone, probably very low odds. But, our electoral college system improves his odds, and, at any rate, I would never count him out.
The internet makes it well nigh impossible to block out efforts by non American citizens to try and influence Americans. And, I agree, nationalism is at the heart of many of mankind's modern wars. But, if you're going to grant non citizens the right to have a say in the fundamental institution of our republic, than you may as well grant American citizenship to everybody on Earth.
Sounds like you would favor a one world government, in fact. And we are just a tiny blue marble floating in a infinite vastness. The fictional future portrayed in Star Trek apparently managed to pull off that form of one world government. But, we're a long way from that, and in the United States, sovereignty lies with the people. We the people. Our sovereignty does not include everybody on the planet.
And here's the real problem with your open invitation for other peoples and nations to "have a say" in our elections. Some of those people and nations regard us as adversaries. They don't like us at all. They don't have our best interests in mind at all. In fact, they would love to see our nation and the ideals of liberal democracy relegated to the ash heap of history. That would certainly be the ultimate goal of Putin. So you are in favor of our adversaries, such as Putin, hurting us.
Well, Trump may be on the same page as you in that regard, since, in the Ukraine affair, once again, as Pelosi points out, for the Donald, "All roads lead to Putin".
Red
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I would also point out, that since the Russians were able to penetrate our election infrastructure in 2016, although there is no evidence they took advantage of that security breach, then I must assume you have no problem with something like that, with that kind of "say in our elections".
Influence campaigns on social media. Check. Screwing with voter roles. Check. Deleting voter registration. Check. Etc, etc. All of that is something you would have no problem with. Just another way for an adversary to have "a say in our elections."
Yeah, I do think nationalism is a real problem, and has been. Yet it is the reality, and has been for a few hundred years. Witness the Kurds. Betrayed by the great powers following the First World War, they've been trying to establish their own nation ever since. Ethnic nationalism is quite a force in the modern world. Not so much here in the USA. A land of immigrants of all ethnicities.
Still, I personally would have a problem being a traitor to the USA. I'm thinking, based on your comment, that that would not be as much of a problem with yourself?
When Bolton gets praise in Foreign Affairs alongside glowing accounts of the new face of the UN under Chinese management, when Fox is in transition from the retiring oligarch Scrooge to new management under hip wannabees, nobody can be dumber than you for your predictable stooge rhetorical boosterism for the dying progressive visions.....
Conservatives can be as tiresome as progressives sometimes for sheer unthinking boosterism. There was a professed military conservative on Levin's program yesterday telling stories about great "American" German Shepherds like the one who took down the ISIS chief, who said Trump has it all in the bag. Amazing how much JFC looks like that when gloating about Trump's inevitable death in his own dead end tunnel.
Well, not that the ISIS leader was in a dead-end tunnel, I'm sure. How many here believe everything they read or hear.... raise your hands kiddies..... I know you all do. You can't fool me. That's why you have to erect label bans on all other sources except the ones who support your position. And it's soooooo good to have a little commander of your cell telling you what's OK to read.
I think I will start a new thread. "The Ignore babe elitist brag Thread", where you can focus on babe instead of any intelligent discussion. I'm just enough of a narcissist to enjoy that.....
But having just gone over my own diverse collection of feeds and inputs, here's what'g gonna happen with Trump.
Pelosi will get most of the 30-odd dems who are feeling like they'll be left swinging from a lamp post if they vote in the house to go formal on the Impeachment, but not all. And there might even be some R defectors who will add in. So the Impeachment will go formal.
Schiff's rules for the testimony will annoy a lot of Americans, and will be the R case for McConnell's Senate to dismiss the complaint, not even bringing it up for a vote. The Supreme Court will have a hissy fit, with Roberts in the bag for doing Trump in. The dems will vote to impeach VP Pence as well, setting up the need for a new VP as well. It will be Mitt. The Supreme Court will order McConnel to take the vote, without hearings for evidence. The Supreme Court will declare Trump Impeached without a Senate Vote.
Foreign Affairs and Xi will announce that the United States is legitimately under the Pelosi/Mitt Presidency. The LDS Church will counsel it's members, in an official declaration, that this is all Divine Providence and the Will of God, and that any faithful member who speaks against it will lose all their religious social credit. Xi will help with the detection of LDS dissidents.
Trump will barricade the White House doors, and there will be a riot on the streets. Antifa will be there, with some fake rednecks paid by Soros to front for the racist Nazi Trump support base. CNN will have cameras rolling, and talking heads revolving.
Obama will show up, with some generals Trump has supposedly dumped, with Rev8, SirKickyass, Colton, and Jason driving tanks over the iron fence and up onto the Whitehouse steps. Thriller will be out on the street dancing, naked, with Red and Game, and the military police dogs will be set loose to go eat Trump's ***.
But six of Trumps' former girls of the night will barricade the Oval Office door, and do the final act of sacrifice heroinically. The dogs will lick the girls' asses, whimper a bit, and tuck tail and sit down to help protect Trump.
Even dogs are smarter than Trumpdumpsters.
The dems will lose 2020 house, line and sinker. Even will 6 M fake votes on their side.
Well, not that the ISIS leader was in a dead-end tunnel, I'm sure. How many here believe everything they read or hear.... raise your hands kiddies..... I know you all do. You can't fool me. That's why you have to erect label bans on all other sources except the ones who support your position. And it's soooooo good to have a little commander of your cell telling you what's OK to read.
I think I will start a new thread. "The Ignore babe elitist brag Thread", where you can focus on babe instead of any intelligent discussion. I'm just enough of a narcissist to enjoy that.....
But having just gone over my own diverse collection of feeds and inputs, here's what'g gonna happen with Trump.
Pelosi will get most of the 30-odd dems who are feeling like they'll be left swinging from a lamp post if they vote in the house to go formal on the Impeachment, but not all. And there might even be some R defectors who will add in. So the Impeachment will go formal.
Schiff's rules for the testimony will annoy a lot of Americans, and will be the R case for McConnell's Senate to dismiss the complaint, not even bringing it up for a vote. The Supreme Court will have a hissy fit, with Roberts in the bag for doing Trump in. The dems will vote to impeach VP Pence as well, setting up the need for a new VP as well. It will be Mitt. The Supreme Court will order McConnel to take the vote, without hearings for evidence. The Supreme Court will declare Trump Impeached without a Senate Vote.
Foreign Affairs and Xi will announce that the United States is legitimately under the Pelosi/Mitt Presidency. The LDS Church will counsel it's members, in an official declaration, that this is all Divine Providence and the Will of God, and that any faithful member who speaks against it will lose all their religious social credit. Xi will help with the detection of LDS dissidents.
Trump will barricade the White House doors, and there will be a riot on the streets. Antifa will be there, with some fake rednecks paid by Soros to front for the racist Nazi Trump support base. CNN will have cameras rolling, and talking heads revolving.
Obama will show up, with some generals Trump has supposedly dumped, with Rev8, SirKickyass, Colton, and Jason driving tanks over the iron fence and up onto the Whitehouse steps. Thriller will be out on the street dancing, naked, with Red and Game, and the military police dogs will be set loose to go eat Trump's ***.
But six of Trumps' former girls of the night will barricade the Oval Office door, and do the final act of sacrifice heroinically. The dogs will lick the girls' asses, whimper a bit, and tuck tail and sit down to help protect Trump.
Even dogs are smarter than Trumpdumpsters.
The dems will lose 2020 house, line and sinker. Even will 6 M fake votes on their side.