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LogGrad98 said:
This is kind of my point. Putin is a megalomaniac and fascist dictator, and highly volatile. If you back a dangerous animal into a corner it will pull out all the stops to fight back. I could see him seeing that as one desperate final attempt to hold his empire together. Would not surprise me in the slightest.

And I also hope Ukraine does not stop there. Send more drones, start hitting infrastructure, power generation, transportation lines, anything they can to disrupt the Russian military machine. They are on their back foot now, time to keep striking until they fall.
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If they can penetrate Russia like that a bombing campaign like the IRA waged in London in the 80s and 90s would be a good idea. Those bombings of commercial areas, caused hundreds of millions of pounds of damage and brought the brits to the negotiating table.
 

The strike is one of the heaviest blows that Ukraine has landed on Russia in a war now well into its fourth year. Russia has relatively small numbers of strategic bombers—probably fewer than 90 operational Tu-22, Tu-95 and newer Tu-160s in total. The planes can carry nuclear weapons, but have been used to fire conventional cruise missilesagainst Ukrainian targets, as recently as last week. That has made them high-priority targets for Ukrainian military planners. Many of the aircraft are old and no longer produced—the last Tu-22m3s and Tu-95s were made more than 30 years ago—and their replacements, the Tu-160, are being manufactured at a glacial pace.

The fact that Ukraine was able to damage or destroy such a large number of Russia’s most advanced aircraft deep inside the country reflects the development of its deep-strike programme, as well as the remarkable extent to which Ukraine’s undercover operatives are now able to work inside Russia. Since the start of the Kremlin’s all-out invasion, Ukraine’s operations have expanded in range, ambition and sophistication. Western countries have provided some assistance to Ukraine’s deep-strike programme—on May 28th Germany promised to finance Ukrainian long-range drones—but much of the technology and mission planning is indigenous.

Today’s operation is likely to be ranked among the most important raiding actions in modern warfare. According to sources, the mission was 18 months in the making. Russia had been expecting attacks by larger fixed-wing drones at night and closer to the border with Ukraine. The Ukrainians reversed all three variables, launching small drones during the day, and doing so far from the front lines. Ukraine had launched drones from within Russia previously; the difference was the scale and combined nature of the operations.

Commentators close to the Ukrainian security services suggest that as many as 150 drones and 300 bombs had been smuggled into Russia for the operations. The quadcopters were apparently built into wooden cabins, loaded onto lorries and then released after the roofs of the cabins were remotely retracted. The drones used Russian mobile-telephone networks to relay their footage back to Ukraine, much of which was released by the gleeful Ukrainians. They also used elements of automated targeting, the accounts claim.


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Good summary. The truck drivers did not know they were carrying drones, remotely controlled, each with its own remote pilot, set to launch. When the remote controlled roof opened, some threw rocks at the drones as they flew out.

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How Ukraine carried out daring 'Spider Web' attack on Russian bombers

On 1 June, more than 100 Ukrainian drones struck strategic targets deep into Russia in an elaborate and audacious operation.
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I love that this operation was well into planning and preparation when JD Vance yelled at Zelensky in the White House telling him that he didn't hold any cards.

Turns out he had at least one ace up his sleeve and I doubt that was the only card he has hidden.
 
Sardines said:
I love that this operation was well into planning and preparation when JD Vance yelled at Zelensky in the White House telling him that he didn't hold any cards.

Turns out he had at least one ace up his sleeve and I doubt that was the only card he has hidden.
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Absolute ****ing Legend. The guy has to go down as one of the greatest war-time presidents of the modern era.
 
Sardines said:
I love that this operation was well into planning and preparation when JD Vance yelled at Zelensky in the White House telling him that he didn't hold any cards.

Turns out he had at least one ace up his sleeve and I doubt that was the only card he has hidden.
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yay nuclear war and being lied to by our "allies"!!!
 
Listen to this psychopath. He wants to Nuke Gaza and this is the crazy warmonger that was in Ukraine the day before the "masterful drone attack" escalation on Russia that you all think is so wonderful. This is who's side you are on in Ukraine! The Lindsey Grahams and Cheneys of the world. The crazy warmongering psychotic bloodthirsty demons of politics are what you are cheering on in Ukraine.


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This seems to be the general reaction of MAGA to the Ukrainian drone attack. One thing that does stand out, is despite Putin launching the worst bombings of the war, you will never hear MAGA express alarm or sympathy for any Ukrainians killed. You will never hear MAGA suggest Ukraine has a right to defend itself from those attacks, including a plan executed that destroyed the very planes killing scores of Ukrainians.

Russia bombs Ukraine into the Stone Age. MAGA: silence, not a peep. No concern whatsoever for thousands of Ukrainian deaths.

Ukraine destroys the planes used to send missles into Ukraine. MAGA: “Zelensky is trying to trigger WWIII!!”.




MAGA influencers warned of dark forces at play — and the risk of dangerous escalation — as Ukraine celebrated a historic drone operation targeting Russia's bombing fleet.

Why it matters: President Trump has not publicly commented so far on Ukraine's stunning "Spiderweb" operation, in which more than 100 drones infiltrated air bases deep inside Russia and destroyed nuclear-capable bombers.

  • MAGA's alarm over Ukraine's attack — and comparative silence when Russia targets Ukrainian civilians — underscores the movement's deep skepticism of the Western-backed government in Kyiv.
  • While Trump seeks to present himself as a neutral mediator trying to bring broker peace, large swathes of his base see Ukraine — not Russia — as the enemy.
Driving the news: Ukraine's successful operation, which took 18 months to covertly plan, delivered a major strategic coup in a war that has otherwise been mired in stalemate and trench warfare.
  • As Ukrainians and their allies praised the breakthrough, some MAGA influencers expressed suspicion and anger that Kyiv had not informed Trump about the operation ahead of time.
  • At best, MAGA treated the attack as counterproductive to nascent peace talks; at worst, they feared an attempt by Ukraine and American "Deep State" actors to drag the U.S. further into the conflict.
State of play: Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have failed so far to persuade Russian President Vladimir Putin to agree to a ceasefire. Peace talks at the staff level have yielded little progress beyond prisoner swaps.
  • Top Trump administration officials — including the president himself, at times — have warned that the U.S. could walk away from the conflict completely if talks do not advance.
What they're saying: Pro-Trump influencer Jack Posobiec speculated on Steve Bannon's "War Room" Monday about whether the Biden administration could have been involved in the operation, given that planning began 18 months ago.
  • "Seems very much on the interior of Russia. I sure hope America had nothing to do with it," said Charlie Kirk, a top MAGA activist with close White House ties.
  • Rogan O'Handley, who runs the popular DC Draino X account, alleged, without evidence, that the attack was "intentionally conducted to drag America into WW3."
Dan Caldwell, a former top Pentagon official who advocates for "America First" foreign policy, warned that the operation "raises risk of direct confrontation between Russia and NATO."
  • "U.S. should not only distance itself from this attack but end any support that could directly or indirectly enable attacks against Russian strategic nuclear forces," Caldwell wrote.
Between the lines: MAGA has been nothing if not consistent throughout the war, treating Zelensky as a "globalist" puppet and Ukraine as a backwater of corruption.
  • Zelensky and any Ukrainian military operations against Russian troops have been met with hostility from MAGA for years.
  • Meanwhile, Russian attacks on civilian infrastructure garner sporadic criticism from Trump, but mostly silence from his staunchest supporters.
The bottom line: Trump is facing pressure from multiple sides: Republican senators who want tougher sanctions on Russia, and an agitated MAGA base that sees Ukraine as the enemy.
 
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Dispatch from Kyiv: Ukraine’s daring drone attack gives Trump leverage against Putin

Ukraine’s June 1 drone strikes against five bases across Russia underscored its ingenuity and may help shape the negotiations to come.
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KYIV—It was a surprising and devastating attack that some hysterical Russian war bloggers are calling the country’s Pearl Harbor. But the assault on Pearl Harbor occurred when there was no war between Japan and the United States.

Having spent the last four nights in a bomb shelter in Odesa and Kyiv as the Kremlin continues its massive missile and drone attacks on Ukraine’s cities, in a war of aggression that Moscow launched, I can assure you that Ukraine had every right to do what it did on June 1: Strike strategic bombers at five bases across the breadth of Russia.

In contrast to Moscow’s targeting of Ukrainian civilians and infrastructure, Ukraine committed no war crime or breach of international law in destroying those Russian planes, which are regularly used against civilians.

Rather than recalling the Pearl Harbor attack, the complexity and boldness of Ukraine’s “Operation Spiderweb”—which involved smuggling drones into Russian regions from Murmansk to Irkutsk, and launching them against advanced Russian Tu-95 and Tu-22 bombers and A-50 intelligence planes—rivals the now legendary Israeli intelligence operation against Hezbollah fighters’ pagers last year. It has underscored once again that ingenuity along with determination are Ukraine’s strategic advantages in stopping Moscow’s war of aggression.….

…..Beyond the battlefield, the impact of this operation is perhaps even more significant. It is a strong counter to the dubious “common wisdom” that the war is moving inevitably in Moscow’s favor. This same assumption explains why Russian President Vladimir Putin has rejected numerous proposals for a cease-fire by US President Donald Trump, and why he has refused to send a paper with the Kremlin’s terms for a cease-fire to Ukraine before the June 2 peace talks in Istanbul that he proposed. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy correctly described that proposal as a stalling tactic, but against the backdrop of this daring operation finally announced that Ukraine would attend the talks. At this point, Moscow is not talking about boycotting them…..

…..A key question is how the Trump administration will respond to this operation. Several hours after the news broke, the only word from the White House was that Kyiv did not let it know of the operation in advance. The attack occurred just days after the visit of Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal to Ukraine, where they announced that the Senate will move ahead this coming week on their long-awaited bill to impose major additional sanctions against Russia.

Trump has been coming under increasing criticism for his reluctance to put real pressure on Putin for the Russian president’s failure to accept cease-fire terms proposed by Washington and accepted by Kyiv. Will Trump let the sanctions bill—which has eighty-two co-sponsors—pass the Senate? He could call Putin, point to Ukraine’s latest military accomplishment as one more reason to accept Trump’s compromise solution for a cease-fire, and note that political pressure in Washington to take more action against Russia is growing. (The US president can also point to Ukraine’s effective operation, which flummoxed Russian air defenses, as one more reason the United States needs his proposed Golden Dome missile defense system, which Ukraine could be a uniquely capable partner in building.)

Trump could convey the message that if Putin cannot bring himself to accept a cease-fire, significant new sanctions are coming. That would be a clever way to leverage Ukraine’s battlefield success to achieve Trump’s own goal: a durable peace in Ukraine.
 
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Mongoose said:
this is the crazy warmonger that was in Ukraine the day before the "masterful drone attack" escalation on Russia that you all think is so wonderful
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Wonderful? Putin has been launching missiles against Ukraine, like never before, largest number of attacks of the war. Was that also wonderful to you?? How is Putin launching such attacks not a detriment to peace, but Zelensky bombing the very planes used to kill Ukrainian civilians is a detriment to peace? You are insisting that Ukraine has no right, whatsoever, to fight back against an invading madman, and no right to deal a blow against Russia.

You support Russia. If Putin did launch nuclear weapons, and started WWIII, you would support his right to start WWIII. You will say WWIII breaking out is Zelensky’s fault for daring to defend his nation. If anybody opposes Putin, that person or nation blaming Putin for this war, will then henceforth be known as the people and nation responsible for nuclear war.

You will never be right, if your idea of being right is saying “Ukraine has no right to defend itself from those citizens, has never had that right, and will never have that right. They must sit back and allow Putin to rain missles down upon them”. Killing Ukrainians by the hundreds, and the only solution to that outrage by Zelensky is to surrender on Putin’s terms, which are also Trump’s terms, and give Russia everything Putin wants. Ukraine must surrender, or else Russia will start a third world war.

Attack missles used to rain death on Ukraine. No, Ukraine must not do that, they must allow the missles to rain down, they must leave Russia’s bombers alone. What a brilliant take!
 
Why does Putin have the ability to launch nuclear war and Ukraine does not?

Oh yeah, that's right! The U.S. helped to negotiate that Ukraine hand over all their nukes to Russia in exchange for guarantees that the U.S. would protect the national sovereignty of Ukraine against any possible Russian aggression.

That's how that went down.
 
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Wonderful? Putin has been launching missiles against Ukraine, like never before, largest number of attacks of the war. Was that also wonderful to you?? How is Putin launching such attacks not a detriment to peace, but Zelensky bombing the very planes used to kill Ukrainian civilians is a detriment to peace? You are insisting that Ukraine has no right, whatsoever, to fight back against an invading madman, and no right to deal a blow against Russia.

You support Russia. If Putin did launch nuclear weapons, and started WWIII, you would support his right to start WWIII. You will say WWIII breaking out is Zelensky’s fault for daring to defend his nation. If anybody opposes Putin, that person or nation blaming Putin for this war, will then henceforth be known as the people and nation responsible for nuclear war.

You will never be right, if your idea of being right is saying “Ukraine has no right to defend itself from those citizens, has never had that right, and will never have that right. They must sit back and allow Putin to rain missles down upon them”. Killing Ukrainians by the hundreds, and the only solution to that outrage by Zelensky is to surrender on Putin’s terms, which are also Trump’s terms, and give Russia everything Putin wants. Ukraine must surrender, or else Russia will start a third world war.

Attack missles used to rain death on Ukraine. No, Ukraine must not do that, they must allow the missles to rain down, they must leave Russia’s bombers alone. What a brilliant take!
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Do you hope that Israel nukes Gaza? or that Gaza is completely destroyed and leveled and all Palestinians are completely eradicated? Or do you hope they can find a peace deal?

Ukraine is NOT winning the war with Russia.


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