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Top 10 Best Jazz Players of All Time - Round 2 - Poll #2 of 2!!

Choose your TOP 10 from this list of 15!!

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In this second poll we have the remaining 15 randomized players from the list of 30 we generated in the voting for round 1. Please choose your top 10 players from this list. You may choose up to 10 players. This round will pare the list down to 20, which will then be put into a single poll for all the marbles. @Jason has graciously allowed us to expand the voting options from 10 to 20 for these polls. Thanks Jason!


Again, choose your top 10 players in each poll for round 2!!

NOTE: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE VOTE IN BOTH POLLS. I AM TRYING TO GET THEM OUT AS CLOSE TOGETHER AS POSSIBLE. @Jason OR OTHER MODS, PLEASE STICKY THESE IMMEDIATELY.

Here is the list for poll #2, with impact score (imp est) included:

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For me this is the toughest poll. Especially on the bottom 5 choices. The top 5 is pretty clear for me but the rest was tough.
 
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Gordon Hayward
Pete Maravich
Bryon Russell
Andrei Kirilenko
Carlos Boozer
Mehmet Okur
Darrell Griffith
Rickey Green
John Stockton
Mark Eaton
 
Kind of surprised Big T isn't in the top 10 so far. He was a key cog in the early days of the Stockton and Malone team's development. He gave us a second 20 ppg scorer with Malone, and they played off each other well.
 
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Eminence said:
Gordon Hayward
Pete Maravich
Bryon Russell
Andrei Kirilenko
Carlos Boozer
Mehmet Okur
Darrell Griffith
Rickey Green
John Stockton
Mark Eaton
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19 of your 20 picks are the same for me. I just had Thurl over Russell in this batch, which is ironic because Bryon (don’t call me Byron) was my favourite player back in the day.
 
With 25 voters so far in this one, only one consensus vote - John Stockton. Next is Pete with 24. So someone felt someone else in this group was more deserving than Pistol Pete. That is interesting.
 
Im surpised I got all 10 as the most popular picks in this one. I left off harpring, big Al, russell, bogey, and green.
 
LogGrad98 said:
With 25 voters so far in this one, only one consensus vote - John Stockton. Next is Pete with 24. So someone felt someone else in this group was more deserving than Pistol Pete. That is interesting.
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I voted for Pistol and probably will for the top 10, but he's exactly the type of player I worry was more Monta Ellis than actually impactful. Kinda like Clarkson might be if a team just handed him the keys.
 
Eminence said:
I voted for Pistol and probably will for the top 10, but he's exactly the type of player I worry was more Monta Ellis than actually impactful. Kinda like Clarkson might be if a team just handed him the keys.
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I actually think he is the opposite. I think he was fiercely competitive and wanted to win. Give him the modern training we get today and he'd be a force to be reckoned with.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I actually think he is the opposite. I think he was fiercely competitive and wanted to win. Give him the modern training we get today and he'd be a force to be reckoned with.
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I would never call Clarkson uncompetitive (maybe that was some of Monta's problems), just that they (Pistol/Monta/Clarkson) have spent their lives perfecting one skill (scoring) and A) Didn't make it to the level of the best of the best scorers (eg Kevin Durant) B) can't really do anything else at a positive level on an NBA court.
 
**** AK. No way I can vote for that bum. Rip Don all you want. Dude at least works on his craft.
 
Eminence said:
I would never call Clarkson uncompetitive (maybe that was some of Monta's problems), just that they (Pistol/Monta/Clarkson) have spent their lives perfecting one skill (scoring) and A) Didn't make it to the level of the best of the best scorers (eg Kevin Durant) B) can't really do anything else at a positive level on an NBA court.
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You didn't know much about pistol Pete. He was the consummate scorer, ball handler, facilitator. He could score from anywhere on the court. He could get to the rim at will. Multiple high-level players at that time and after have said he was straight up the most skilled player they ever saw. Part of his flashy play and perceived lack of anything but was driven by the fact that when he played it was the norm to give the audience a show as much or more than try to play a winning game. He was a product of his era. But again, give him the modern game treatment and he would have easily have been something on the level of a harden or better.
 
LogGrad98 said:
You didn't know much about pistol Pete. He was the consummate scorer, ball handler, facilitator. He could score from anywhere on the court. He could get to the rim at will. Multiple high-level players at that time and after have said he was straight up the most skilled player they ever saw. Part of his flashy play and perceived lack of anything but was driven by the fact that when he played it was the norm to give the audience a show as much or more than try to play a winning game. He was a product of his era. But again, give him the modern game treatment and he would have easily have been something on the level of a harden or better.
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Harden is very generous, Kyrie maybe. He was simply too turnover prone and not efficient enough as a scorer to deserve comparison to MVP caliber guards.
 
Eminence said:
Harden is very generous, Kyrie maybe. He was simply too turnover prone and not efficient enough as a scorer to deserve comparison to MVP caliber guards.
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Most of his turnovers were due to showmanship. Again, put him in the modern game where they are less Harlem globetrotters and he would adapt. He'd be straight deadly in the modern game.
 
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