fallenchicken
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If we’re taking back Simmons in any sort of three way deal, he better come with extra draft assets. He is not a valuable asset right now and probably won’t ever be worth his contract.
If we’re taking back Simmons in any sort of three way deal, he better come with extra draft assets. He is not a valuable asset right now and probably won’t ever be worth his contract.
Agreed. Simmons is a spendy negative asset ala Westbrook.If we’re taking back Simmons in any sort of three way deal, he better come with extra draft assets. He is not a valuable asset right now and probably won’t ever be worth his contract.
If the trade is official tomorrow, does that mean Kessler and Bolmaro can play Summer League?
If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?They might need 3 or 4 teams. Ayton won’t wait forever and can sign an offer sheet with Indiana once the moratorium is lifted and then all the teams are kinda stuck.
I actually don't think the Jazz are going to do anything to help Brooklyn. I think they are bluffing to drive the price up for New York. That's the only play. If there is no New York deal, you just hold on to Donovan. The Brooklyn and Heat deals are garbage. Jazz will take Ayton from Phoenix if the deal is good enough (A player and a first.) Otherwise I think they just might start doing small ball deals to trim age off the roster and get picks.
.Well isn’t their best case scenario Donovan?
If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?
Phoenix has his rights. They can match any offer then send him off where they please. If he agrees to a sign and trade, he has a say to his new team.If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?
If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?
Brooklyn is going to want all the cream out of the Twinkie in a Jazz, Suns, Nets three way. They are going to want those Phoenix picks AND Bridges AND Mitchell. Screw 'em. Knicks will buckle, even if we need to let them experience life a bit with Brunsen as their "superstar." As bad as we feel like we would be fleecing them, they generally make worse decisions.
Nobody knows this, of course. But we also don't know whether any sign-and-trade option would give him anything better. It seems it's in his interest to try to get both options in play (by having the process drag out at least to the end of the moratorium).Who says Indiana is even offering him what he wants?
If they don’t get a package they love what do you think they do?Both the players and the team have reached an ultimatum. They're both getting moved this offseason.
Well Phoenix can still match and then he’s either back in a tough situation or traded wherever they want to later. The Indy offer may also not be there. He isn’t guaranteed to get a max… so he will want to keep options open. If Indy does offer it he may just sign it and handle the consequences later. If he prefers Utah or somewhere else he may be patient to get what he prefers.If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?
I suspect his primary goal is getting paid. If it's with Phoenix, he'll find a way to cope. If it's with Sacramento or Indiana (for example), he'll be fine as long as it's the highest offer. Why would he prefer Utah? Why would it be in his interest to try to hurry the process along before an offer sheet can be formally given?Phoenix has his rights. They can match any offer then send him off where they please. If he agrees to a sign and trade, he has a say to his new team.
He's a bad spot. Only a few teams would want him with his high contract price. His salary and potential new team is a big question mark now.
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In theory you’d be getting Ayton and heavy draft capital for Donovan. And then including other players for Simmons.Giving up Mitchell to acquire Simmons is the opposite of buying low.
IIRC once he signs an offer sheet elsewhere but basically eliminates the possibility they are able to trade him.Well Phoenix can still match and then he’s either back in a tough situation or traded wherever they want to later. The Indy offer may also not be there. He isn’t guaranteed to get a max… so he will want to keep options open. If Indy does offer it he may just sign it and handle the consequences later. If he prefers Utah or somewhere else he may be patient to get what he prefers.
If that's what results, it's still the result that gives him the most money. He'll find a way to live with it.Suns could match the offer and he's back in PHX, though that becomes more complicated if the Suns are trying to trade for KD.