Tre Johnson Will Likely be The 5th Pick

[SoberasHotRod]

If the Jazz have a preference for who they want outside the top 2, they should do that deal, or offer a young player instead of #21. Then do the exact same thing next year.

For me personally, it's too difficult to say who is for sure the best prospect between Tre, VJ, and Ace. So I really don't want to give up assets to trade up.

At the same time I think it's likely that one of those three is significantly better than the others in the end, and if the FO figures out who that is then I think trading up makes sense.

 

[NUMBERICA]

He said yes

Jackpotting Around has motion

Y’all’s hits this early out the gate is really impressive.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

For me personally, it's too difficult to say who is for sure the best prospect between Tre, VJ, and Ace. So I really don't want to give up assets to trade up.

At the same time I think it's likely that one of those three is significantly better than the others in the end, and if the FO figures out who that is then I think trading up makes sense.

That's why I said "if the Jazz have a preference..." If they don't, then sure, sit at 5 and wait for your guy to show up. I'm guessing they'll have a preference.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I have this nagging feeling in the back of my head that there is something off with Ace. I cant point my finger on one thing and prove my point with solid arguments... but my gut says he is 2025 drafts overadvertized promiseware.

Call me idiot all you want... but Id rather have Tre or VJ.

You’re not an idiot. I want Tre out of all three.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

I have more faith in Cody than most only because of how damn good his brother is. Son’s of NBA players end up great pros usually. I don’t think that’ll be too different for brothers. I think Cody works his *** off in all ways this off-season.

How many brothers do you think all of the players in the NBA have, altogether? 100? 200? And how many of those are currently in the NBA? Hardly any.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

If dealing 21 is the difference between getting one of Ace/Tre vs VJ, Id do it

in

I’d move up to 3 to get VJ

5 + 21 for 3

That’s gross

 

[kcgar]

If it is Ace who falls to 5 then just trade down. To me this draft is 4 man deep. I'd take prospects in the late lottery/teens over Ace.

This is how I am starting to feel. I am getting much more hyped about Fleming, Carter Bryant, Essengue, and Yang.

I am trade up for VJ or trade out. I am very scared of Ace’s mental issues, which I think cause a lot of his on court weaknesses. The more I watch him the more I think he won’t be great. He won’t bust but he won’t be close to a star. I am also very scared of Tre’s defense. Watching the Hoop Intellect on his defense was one of the worst defensive lowlights I have ever seen. On some plays it looked like he was trying to play defense but was scared to touch the other guy and would let them go around him. There was one play that he was so late that he tried to contest a shot and block it after it had hit the back board. Almost like he was delayed or something. Defense is very important for me overall. I prefer a player that is 60-40 defense and offense Tre’s defense turned me off of him.

I think Carter Bryant could end up being as good as VJ or close. Then partner him up with one of the other guys I mentioned above and that would be great. Even though we tanked so hard I would still happy if we went that direction

 

[kcgar]

You’re not an idiot. I want Tre out of all three.

I was like you and was hyped after I saw Tre’s workout highlights and measurements. Then I watched his defensive highlights on the Hoops Intellect video and it was disgustingly. It was atrocious like I have never seen. I’m completely off him.


View: https://youtu.be/jXZCEWBFZjU?si=4h4KmLr1upB1JMnz


Start at 10:56

 

[NUMBERICA]

For me personally, it's too difficult to say who is for sure the best prospect between Tre, VJ, and Ace. So I really don't want to give up assets to trade up.

At the same time I think it's likely that one of those three is significantly better than the others in the end, and if the FO figures out who that is then I think trading up makes sense.

Counter: our top pick suuucked last year and our two late picks were really good for it being such a ****** draft.

Two bites at the apple has real value. Especially since I'm developing a pretty long list of players I like and one of them will probably be available at 21 (Wolf, Flemming, Beringer, Bryant, Coward).