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Tre Johnson Will Likely be The 5th Pick

I think it would be outright malpractice to not tank next year. Having the 5th pick and thinking we’re good just isn’t it.
Who's the fifth best prospect next year, so we can all get excited about yet another wasted season.
 
that's insane. move down three at the top of the draft so you can move up two at the bottom of the 1st? what the? why not just stay at 5 and very likely (more likely than getting who they want at 8 vs 5) get the guy you would take at 19, at 21?
You're right after further thought
And this was not T Jones exact comment
I concocted this on my own
Sorry Tony
 
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Just trade down. Or call SAS for a potential trade up. SAS definitely not keeping Harper on their team. Worst case scenario for both parties.
 
Fall to what -- #6?
I feel like we do this every year. We have a draft order in May that we think is set in stone, and then come late June there are some major changes that we all are like "yeah, totally called that".

2023 is a great example. I dont remember a single mock here or anywhere for that matter that showed Cam falling out of the top 9. Many had him top 5.

To answer the question, I could see him slide to 10+. Not saying its a guarantee, but if teams are convinced he is nothing more than a 1 dimensional shooter.......queue slide.
 
I feel like we do this every year. We have a draft order in May that we think is set in stone, and then come late June there are some major changes that we all are like "yeah, totally called that".

2023 is a great example. I dont remember a single mock here or anywhere for that matter that showed Cam falling out of the top 9. Many had him top 5.

To answer the question, I could see him slide to 10+. Not saying its a guarantee, but if teams are convinced he is nothing more than a 1 dimensional shooter.......queue slide.

For reference, this is ESPN's post lotto mock. I think it would be pretty dumb to assume we just know everything at this point, we should expect change.

1. Atlanta Hawks – Alex Sarr
2. Washington Wizards – Zaccharie Risacher
3. Houston Rockets (via Brooklyn Nets) – Reed Sheppard
4. San Antonio Spurs – Rob Dillingham
5. Detroit Pistons – Matas Buzelis
6. Charlotte Hornets – Donovan Clingan
7. Portland Trail Blazers – Nikola Topic
8. San Antonio Spurs – Dalton Knecht
9. Memphis Grizzlies – Stephon Castle
10. Utah Jazz – Ron Holland
11. Chicago Bulls – Isaiah Collier
12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Houston Rockets) – Cody Williams
13. Sacramento Kings – Ja'Kobe Walter
14. Portland Trail Blazers (via Golden State Warriors) – Tidjane Salaun
 
I feel like we do this every year. We have a draft order in May that we think is set in stone, and then come late June there are some major changes that we all are like "yeah, totally called that".

2023 is a great example. I dont remember a single mock here or anywhere for that matter that showed Cam falling out of the top 9. Many had him top 5.

To answer the question, I could see him slide to 10+. Not saying its a guarantee, but if teams are convinced he is nothing more than a 1 dimensional shooter.......queue slide.
He didn’t fall because other guys passed him. That was self inflicted. Tre is thought of as having star potential
 
You said Tre could fall because Whitmore did. Whitmore fell because of his own actions and choices. Tre is thought of as a possible star. In order for him to fall he needs to act immature.
It was an example of a dude that fell. Its happens in many drafts. My argument wasn't tied to Cam Whitmore as the start and end.

Simple example.
 
I get the idea of overthink it, I really do, but sometimes it does feel like that just means "care about what I care about instead". Like do where does a 3 cone drill rank on the scale of overthinking it vs not overthinking it. When a guy is a quarter in taller than we expected, how does that compare to being *** at defense? Who is the on the governance committee that decides what is considered overthinking it?

I'm not one to really care about combine testing much. I prefer to look at the statistical indicators instead. But even though there may be a disagreement, I don't think either method should be dismissed because it's "overthinking it".
 
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