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Very good read.

Again if you haven't watched the documentary Active Measures then you should do so.
 
LogGrad98 said:
When was the poll taken? If it was truly in Feb, then it is the reflection of the actions the democrats have taken in response to Trump attacking American. Did they have the support of their base before the election? And no one said they were "too woke", but what they leaned on was a moral superiority that manifested itself in their SJW actions, and thumbing their noses at everyone else, hence they lost those in the middle who could not vote for a party they felt was not representative of their portion of America, the swing voters, as they say. And they could not vote for a candidate with no clue what she was doing and no way to stand against Trump. I fully agree lack of communication was a big issue, as the only democrat, almost literally, giving any kind of party platform during the election was Mayor Pete, who really probably should have been the candidate all along. They screwed the pooch in not shifting their rhetoric to be more encompassing of the swing voters, and even more so, so what, screwed several pooches, in selecting an unelectable candidate. Then after all was said and done they have sat on their hands, with only really Bernie willing to speak out against the atrocities Trump is committing against the american people right now. So yes, their approval rating right now is in the toilet, as it should be. No one should be surprised Trump has a better approval rating, as that is the way it rolls with cults and cult leaders. They follow that leader to cups of poisoned kool-aid and back. Well maybe not back, but to the kool-aid anyway. The democrats need to get together pretty damn fast and start putting together a national platform that gives them a better response to Trump's ongoing coup and provides for better communications that are inclusive of those who can make a difference for them, the swing voters. Emulating the right doesn't appeal to the swing voters, it just makes them look desperate to be equally as repulsive to them. They need to shore up their base and bring over some of those more in the middle in all this, or all will be lost within the first 90 days. Clock is ticking.
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I think its from February, and agree that it's both a reflection of their (lack of) action in response to Trump's power grab and entirely deserved. I also agree that they rested on their laurels, expecting their lip service to social issues to carry them through the day. I guess I'm still confused by your references to SJW actions though, and their "thumbing of noses at everyone else" I'm still not sure what that's actually referring to. As I've pointed out, they really did tack to the center on a bunch of issues to appeal to "moderate" voters. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong about this, but when I hear someone describe themselves as a moderate, what I actually hear is someone who prefers republican policies, but doesn't want to admit it. And for people like that, the republican party already exists, why would you choose the watered down version?

I think the Democrats have been captured by a consultant class who spend all their effort chasing polls, and no time at all on crafting a message to influence public opinion in their direction. They don't need to sacrifice the ideals of their members to be successful, they just need to communicate those ideals in a way that appeals to the rest of the country. That worked for Obama and Bernie, and hell you could argue that's probably Trump's greatest strength (other than his absolute shamelessness).
 

President Donald Trump has increasingly embraced monarchical imagery, as he continues his drastic moves to remake the federal government in his image.

And in a follow-up post on X, the official White House account posted what appeared to be a parody of a TIME magazine cover with a beaming Trump wearing a crown in front of the New York City skyline.

Trump is known to focus meticulously on his personal image and brand, from how events are staged to picking Cabinet members, in part, because they look like they’re out of “central casting.”

But now, at the start of his second term and as he openly ponders a third term despite constitutional guardrails against extending his presidency, he’s repeatedly put forward imagery not as a president but as a king.

“He who saves his Country does not violate any Law,” Trump posted on Truth Social earlier this week, a variation of a quote attributed to the one-time French emperor Napoleon Bonaparte.

The emphasis comes at a time he is looking to consolidate governing power.

He’s signed executive orders that extend his power over independent regulatory agencies. He’s looked to purge the federal workforce of thousands of civil servants. And he’s targeted the Associated Press, one of the world’s most prominent media outlets, for not using language his government prefers.

The royal imagery posted by the White House has roiled many of his opponents, who have long worried that the country was veering toward authoritarianism as Trump looks to hoard governing power and eliminate court-sanctioned checks and balances.
 
Saw a reddit thread about king trump:

Saw that and I was like no ****ing way any American can defend a president calling themselves a king

Kinda crazy thinking back to when we had actual standards for the presidency. The unseriousness of the American public these days baffles me no matter how many times it's demonstrated.

The lack of standards are truly the worst parts of this, and what's worse is that the people who vote for him literally do so because of manufactured outrage, lies, and meaningless culture wars.
The economy has always been better under Democrat presidents than Republican ones. In terms of negative ranking lists like poverty, low education, low economies, crime, unemployment, etc , red states dominate. But ofc they'll keep voting R at both state and federal level and blame Dems somehow, even though Dem policies are what actually help them.

Honestly, none of us are getting out of here alive. No need to take it so seriously.

When it comes to electing our leaders, we should probably be a little bit serious, and they should be as well…


I don’t think official press releases (albeit on a joke of a platform) are appropriate places to be making jokes likening our elected official to a king. We really couldn’t find anyone who would represent us?

Full mask off with that Tweet. I wonder what type of mental gymnastics we'll hear from his supporters trying to justify this one. Im guessing "learn to take a joke" is the response to this one.

He doesn’t need to hide his intention any more, but this still should have been obvious to anyone who paid even an ounce of attention to his words and actions leading up to the election.

But "moderates" everywhere (including on this sub) repeatedly promised us he didn't mean what he said? How could anyone have known that a man who tried to illegally remain in power would turn out to be an authoritarian and behave like a corrupt dictator/king ? /s


His tweet and the crown picture is the very antithesis of what America stands for. It's insulting even if it's tongue in cheek. How very un-America

I know this is just ragebait and it’s meant to trigger the libs or whatever. But I really wish modern politics didn’t reward a world leader for acting like a 4chan troll.

I was politely going back and forth with a user on r/Republican who posted the same Truth Social post. And while I think it's clearly meant to get a rise out of people who may disagree with his policies, owning the left or libs shouldn't be top policy priority. It just creates needless distractions. With that said if he signed an executive order proclaiming himself King, I'd be first in line to say it's time to remove him from office

In 2020, he prepared fake slates of electors in an effort to overturn the election results and stay in power after lawfully losing the election. While a mob of his supporters was attacking the capitol, he then waited three hours to do anything about it, before finally releasing a video in which he said "we love you... you're very special."
While that isn't an executive order declaring himself king, it was an attempt to overturn the democratic process and defy the will of the people, so it's certainly somewhere on that spectrum. Yes, the effort failed, but that doesn't excuse the fact that he tried to do it in the first place.

Stop excusing it with, "just meant to get a rise out of libs". This is Trump normalizing his power grab. Trump does something terrible, and when no one stops him, he does something worse. The official social media account of the White House absolutely should not "joke" about the president being a king - and in fact they aren't joking - they're promoting the idea, and they're determined to make it a happen.

People opposed to Trump push back now, and Trump and his supporters just say it's a joke, it's just to trigger the libs.
As Trump keeps seizing more power, and people opposed to him keep pushing back, it gets brushed off as more of the same--oh, those liberals are claiming the sky is falling again.
So to his supporters it's a joke, and his opponents are 'crazy', and the Executive keeps taking more control. And the party that loudly complained about executive overreach when Obama was in charge happily accept the same dressed in a 'funny' meme.

People misuse the term gaslighting all of the time but this actually is true gaslighting. I think there’s a lot of truth in this.

The administration is run by trolls

Such a troll.

This is not a joke. Trump is making himself king. He's tearing down government agencies, retaliating against anyone who disagrees with him, and ignoring court orders.
Trump has said that GOD spared him from the assassin's bullet, so he's going to play that card as his "divine right to rule". Trump is going to make himself king, because the supreme court and the legislature aren't stopping him. SCOTUS and the GOP lawmakers let Trump get away with violating the constitution, and Trump is taking that as his cue to grab all power for himself.
 
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Zombie said:
I have no doubt that if the founding fathers were alive today they’d already be planning an armed insurrection in response to this.
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Yep, trump is literally why the 2nd amendment exists according to 2nd amendment proponents
 
LogGrad98 said:
The issue is, can this be turned into any kind of resistance. Will they show this at the polls in the mid-terms. This will really show where the country wants to go. I don't have a ton of faith it will make any difference. We will be fully a shambles by the end of the next 4 years of full on dictatorial oppression. Hopefully a better administration can help rebuild after that. But that will be a monumental task. I am not certain we will ever recover from this.
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I actually hope that this administration is followed by actual constitutional amendments that prevent a second try at turning the U.S. into an authoritarian state. I hope that is Trump's legacy. A lesson in what to watch out for, a lesson we already learned during WWII but seem to need a refresher in.
 
Every day it gets worse. It has only been one month. The goal of tearing down democracy is happening at breakneck speed. Today he blamed Ukraine for starting the war and he called himself a king. Yesterday he said only he and his Attorney General can interpret the law for the executive branch. The day before he said, "He who saves his country does not violate any law."

I believe this is ultimately headed toward protests and The Rapist will order the military to fire upon Americans. Then we're in a full-blown dictatorship.
 
str8line said:
Every day it gets worse. It has only been one month. The goal of tearing down democracy is happening at breakneck speed. Today he blamed Ukraine for starting the war and he called himself a king. Yesterday he said only he and his Attorney General can interpret the law for the executive branch. The day before he said, "He who saves his country does not violate any law."

I believe this is ultimately headed toward protests and The Rapist will order the military to fire upon Americans. Then we're in a full-blown dictatorship.
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But trans kids know we don't like them, right? So overall things are going well.
 
Zombie said:
I think its from February, and agree that it's both a reflection of their (lack of) action in response to Trump's power grab and entirely deserved. I also agree that they rested on their laurels, expecting their lip service to social issues to carry them through the day. I guess I'm still confused by your references to SJW actions though, and their "thumbing of noses at everyone else" I'm still not sure what that's actually referring to. As I've pointed out, they really did tack to the center on a bunch of issues to appeal to "moderate" voters. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong about this, but when I hear someone describe themselves as a moderate, what I actually hear is someone who prefers republican policies, but doesn't want to admit it. And for people like that, the republican party already exists, why would you choose the watered down version?

I think the Democrats have been captured by a consultant class who spend all their effort chasing polls, and no time at all on crafting a message to influence public opinion in their direction. They don't need to sacrifice the ideals of their members to be successful, they just need to communicate those ideals in a way that appeals to the rest of the country. That worked for Obama and Bernie, and hell you could argue that's probably Trump's greatest strength (other than his absolute shamelessness).
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That is a problem, I think we've lost sight of what it means to be a moderate, or rather we each have our own idea of what a moderate is and that tends to shoehorn people automatically into the other camp. Take Buck calling me a leftist. I'm all for the 2nd amendment and I own and really enjoy my guns, but I also think we need some common sense gun laws to try to at least chip away at the rampant shootings occurring in our country at rates literally orders of magnitude higher than any other developed nation, but I think we also need to find ways to address mental health issues in conjunction with these gun laws so people who are unstable can't get guns as easily. So which camp am I in? Remember, I by our modem definition MUST be shoehorned in one camp. So am I a right wing gun nut because I own, shoot and really enjoy my guns and don't want to give them up? Am I an irrational leftist who hates the Constitution because I feel we need a few restrictions on gun ownership? We've entirely lost the ability to have any level of nuance in opinion in this country. It was already happening way back in the 90's. We saw it exemplified in the Iraq war when Democrats voted to go to war then immediately backpedaled when they saw this was unpopular instead of sticking to their guns and owning an actually decision. And again when Obama killed Romney because he 1) said "binders full of women" and 2) was one of the few politicians who was capable of changing his mind (on abortion no less) but wasn't allowed to do that since he was then a "flip-flopper" when really that is the kind of politician we should want, one who has the convictions and intelligence to get new information, incorporate it into his world view, and make a reasoned decision to change his mind accordingly. But no, we must all be automatons with no ability to think beyond the party line, which lead us inexorably to the final evolution of this kind of no-quarter-given politics in a race to fascism on one side and an inability to put together 2 ideas to figure out how to stop the fascist on the other and no one is allowed to occupy any middle ground. But this is the inevitable position of a pure 2-party system. We won't survive this long-term if this model of political system isn't upended with a viable third party.
 
LogGrad98 said:
That is a problem, I think we've lost sight of what it means to be a moderate, or rather we each have our own idea of what a moderate is and that tends to shoehorn people automatically into the other camp. Take Buck calling me a leftist. I'm all for the 2nd amendment and I own and really enjoy my guns, but I also think we need some common sense gun laws to try to at least chip away at the rampant shootings occurring in our country at rates literally orders of magnitude higher than any other developed nation, but I think we also need to find ways to address mental health issues in conjunction with these gun laws so people who are unstable can't get guns as easily. So which camp am I in? Remember, I by our modem definition MUST be shoehorned in one camp. So am I a right wing gun nut because I own, shoot and really enjoy my guns and don't want to give them up? Am I an irrational leftist who hates the Constitution because I feel we need a few restrictions on gun ownership? We've entirely lost the ability to have any level of nuance in opinion in this country. It was already happening way back in the 90's. We saw it exemplified in the Iraq war when Democrats voted to go to war then immediately backpedaled when they saw this was unpopular instead of sticking to their guns and owning an actually decision. And again when Obama killed Romney because he 1) said "binders full of women" and 2) was one of the few politicians who was capable of changing his mind (on abortion no less) but wasn't allowed to do that since he was then a "flip-flopper" when really that is the kind of politician we should want, one who has the convictions and intelligence to get new information, incorporate it into his world view, and make a reasoned decision to change his mind accordingly. But no, we must all be automatons with no ability to think beyond the party line, which lead us inexorably to the final evolution of this kind of no-quarter-given politics in a race to fascism on one side and an inability to put together 2 ideas to figure out how to stop the fascist on the other and no one is allowed to occupy any middle ground. But this is the inevitable position of a pure 2-party system. We won't survive this long-term if this model of political system isn't upended with a viable third party.
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Bucknutz is a ****ing kook.
 
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