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Trump Dictatorship and All Things Politics
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Sardines
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If a tree trolls in the forest but no one is there to hear it did it make a post?
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100 percent this.
He’s created other profiles as well. Heathme, jazzy, steak, etc.
Just a sad bored lil dude living in his parent’s basement. If people just stopped reacting to him and he’d leave.
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More Trump acting like a dictator. I remember our anti vax poster from down under once asked how Trump acts like a dictator. Stuff like this, on the regular. Barely anyone notices because he’s been doing this type of **** for years.
abcnews.go.com
President Donald Trump signed an executive action Tuesday targeting a prominent law firm that represents former special counsel Jack Smith. The memo strips Smith's attorney of his security clearance as well as any other attorneys at the firm who assisted Smith while he was investigating Trump.
Trump signs executive action targeting law firm representing former special counsel Jack Smith
The memo strips Jack Smith's attorney of his security clearance as well as any other attorneys at the firm who assisted Smith while he was investigating Trump.
abcnews.go.com
President Donald Trump signed an executive action Tuesday targeting a prominent law firm that represents former special counsel Jack Smith. The memo strips Smith's attorney of his security clearance as well as any other attorneys at the firm who assisted Smith while he was investigating Trump.
My guess is it's that Dutch or whatever his handle was, from memory a 20 something holocaust denier who eventually got banned for any number of repulsive posts
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Yeah but egg prices, Harris’s cackle, and Biden’s tan suit.This about sums it up.
Trump's moves test the limits of presidential power and the resilience of US democracy
During his first six weeks in office, President Donald Trump has worked to tear down the federal government and attack long-standing institutions.apnews.com
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Interesting. Patrimonialism. Sounds like the mafia way. I’ve always thought he wanted to be a mob boss and why not make the Oval Office headquarters? .We could be seen as living in an episode of the Sopranos. Still a strongman style, and it figures: “its main contemporary exponent—at least until January 20, 2025—has been Vladimir Putin”.
This does seem a good way to view the style that is Trump. And despite the last sentence in this excerpt, I still think Putin is capo di tutti capi, the boss of bosses.
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A century ago, a German sociologist explained precisely how Donald Trump thinks about the world, Understanding this view is essential to defeating it.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...t=jya-z5lTntURuSFdyDPB2QBDcchtg0YuxwdjcIUk0aQ
Even those who expected the worst from his reelection (I among them) expected more rationality. Today, it is clear that what has happened since January 20 is not just a change of administration but a change of regime—a change, that is, in our system of government. But a change to what?
There is an answer, and it is not classic authoritarianism—nor is it autocracy, oligarchy, or monarchy. Trump is installing what scholars call patrimonialism. Understanding patrimonialism is essential to defeating it. In particular, it has a fatal weakness that Democrats and Trump’s other opponents should make their primary and relentless line of attack.
Last year, two professors published a book that deserves wide attention. In The Assault on the State: How the Global Attack on Modern Government Endangers Our Future, Stephen E. Hanson, a government professor at the College of William & Mary, and Jeffrey S. Kopstein, a political scientist at UC Irvine, resurface a mostly forgotten term whose lineage dates back to Max Weber, the German sociologist best known for his seminal book The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.
Weber wondered how the leaders of states derive legitimacy, the claim to rule rightfully. He thought it boiled down to two choices. One is rational legal bureaucracy (or “bureaucratic proceduralism”), a system in which legitimacy is bestowed by institutions following certain rules and norms. That is the American system we all took for granted until January 20. Presidents, federal officials, and military inductees swear an oath to the Constitution, not to a person.
The other source of legitimacy is more ancient, more common, and more intuitive—“the default form of rule in the premodern world,” Hanson and Kopstein write. “The state was little more than the extended ‘household’ of the ruler; it did not exist as a separate entity.” Weber called this system “patrimonialism” because rulers claimed to be the symbolic father of the people—the state’s personification and protector. Exactly that idea was implied in Trump’s own chilling declaration: “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.”
Patrimonialism is less a form of government than a style of governing. It is not defined by institutions or rules; rather, it can infect all forms of government by replacing impersonal, formal lines of authority with personalized, informal ones. Based on individual loyalty and connections, and on rewarding friends and punishing enemies (real or perceived), it can be found not just in states but also among tribes, street gangs, and criminal organizations.
In its governmental guise, patrimonialism is distinguished by running the state as if it were the leader’s personal property or family business. It can be found in many countries, but its main contemporary exponent—at least until January 20, 2025—has been Vladimir Putin. In the first portion of his rule, he ran the Russian state as a personal racket. State bureaucracies and private companies continued to operate, but the real governing principle was Stay on Vladimir Vladimirovich’s good side … or else.
Seeking to make the world safe for gangsterism, Putin used propaganda, subversion, and other forms of influence to spread the model abroad. Over time, the patrimonial model gained ground in states as diverse as Hungary, Poland, Turkey, and India. Gradually (as my colleague Anne Applebaum has documented), those states coordinated in something like a syndicate of crime families—“working out problems,” write Hanson and Kopstein in their book, “divvying up the spoils, sometimes quarreling, but helping each other when needed. Putin in this scheme occupied the position of the capo di tutti capi, the boss of bosses.”
Until now. Move over, President Putin.
This does seem a good way to view the style that is Trump. And despite the last sentence in this excerpt, I still think Putin is capo di tutti capi, the boss of bosses.
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A century ago, a German sociologist explained precisely how Donald Trump thinks about the world, Understanding this view is essential to defeating it.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...t=jya-z5lTntURuSFdyDPB2QBDcchtg0YuxwdjcIUk0aQ
Even those who expected the worst from his reelection (I among them) expected more rationality. Today, it is clear that what has happened since January 20 is not just a change of administration but a change of regime—a change, that is, in our system of government. But a change to what?
There is an answer, and it is not classic authoritarianism—nor is it autocracy, oligarchy, or monarchy. Trump is installing what scholars call patrimonialism. Understanding patrimonialism is essential to defeating it. In particular, it has a fatal weakness that Democrats and Trump’s other opponents should make their primary and relentless line of attack.
Last year, two professors published a book that deserves wide attention. In The Assault on the State: How the Global Attack on Modern Government Endangers Our Future, Stephen E. Hanson, a government professor at the College of William & Mary, and Jeffrey S. Kopstein, a political scientist at UC Irvine, resurface a mostly forgotten term whose lineage dates back to Max Weber, the German sociologist best known for his seminal book The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.
Weber wondered how the leaders of states derive legitimacy, the claim to rule rightfully. He thought it boiled down to two choices. One is rational legal bureaucracy (or “bureaucratic proceduralism”), a system in which legitimacy is bestowed by institutions following certain rules and norms. That is the American system we all took for granted until January 20. Presidents, federal officials, and military inductees swear an oath to the Constitution, not to a person.
The other source of legitimacy is more ancient, more common, and more intuitive—“the default form of rule in the premodern world,” Hanson and Kopstein write. “The state was little more than the extended ‘household’ of the ruler; it did not exist as a separate entity.” Weber called this system “patrimonialism” because rulers claimed to be the symbolic father of the people—the state’s personification and protector. Exactly that idea was implied in Trump’s own chilling declaration: “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.”
Patrimonialism is less a form of government than a style of governing. It is not defined by institutions or rules; rather, it can infect all forms of government by replacing impersonal, formal lines of authority with personalized, informal ones. Based on individual loyalty and connections, and on rewarding friends and punishing enemies (real or perceived), it can be found not just in states but also among tribes, street gangs, and criminal organizations.
In its governmental guise, patrimonialism is distinguished by running the state as if it were the leader’s personal property or family business. It can be found in many countries, but its main contemporary exponent—at least until January 20, 2025—has been Vladimir Putin. In the first portion of his rule, he ran the Russian state as a personal racket. State bureaucracies and private companies continued to operate, but the real governing principle was Stay on Vladimir Vladimirovich’s good side … or else.
Seeking to make the world safe for gangsterism, Putin used propaganda, subversion, and other forms of influence to spread the model abroad. Over time, the patrimonial model gained ground in states as diverse as Hungary, Poland, Turkey, and India. Gradually (as my colleague Anne Applebaum has documented), those states coordinated in something like a syndicate of crime families—“working out problems,” write Hanson and Kopstein in their book, “divvying up the spoils, sometimes quarreling, but helping each other when needed. Putin in this scheme occupied the position of the capo di tutti capi, the boss of bosses.”
Until now. Move over, President Putin.
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PJF
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What a wuss
Step-Back Lauri
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And now the fascist leaders of USA want to replace Zelenskiy, just bc he dares to defend his nation against terror. What's the difference between Kreml and White house anymore?
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Back on ignore. Good night big guy.
Al-O-Meter
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None of you do, which is why I see the assured certainty as so humorous.
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The difference is that Ukraine is a problem for the Kremlin, while Ukraine is not our problem.
lol look at the jump in the markets and crypto.
trump has exposed our markets for what they are, pump and bump slot machines where world events, economic uncertainty, and war don’t effect them anymore. Our owners can raise and drop the market whenever they want.
You’re already a slave. They own your retirement, your mortgage, debt, your entire financial life is decided by them. Your families future has been bet on red.
I hope it’s worth it, for all of us.
Oh yeah, buy the dip.
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trump has exposed our markets for what they are, pump and bump slot machines where world events, economic uncertainty, and war don’t effect them anymore. Our owners can raise and drop the market whenever they want.
You’re already a slave. They own your retirement, your mortgage, debt, your entire financial life is decided by them. Your families future has been bet on red.
I hope it’s worth it, for all of us.
Oh yeah, buy the dip.
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PJF
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Zelenksy is lying. He has possession of the copy the Ukraine legislature confirmed. If Zelensky were ready to put his signature on the deal then he'd sign it. Don't listen to what politicians say. Watch what they do.
Orrrr maybe Zelenskyy was able to shop for security guarantees from EU/UK, which allows them to move forward with Trumps deal even with his “security guarantee” aka “Trust me!”
It’s a good deal for everyone. Trump gets his deal and can wink at Putin. Ukraine gets NATO protection. Russia will walk away with south eastern Ukraine and Crimea.
It’s complete and total ********, but Al’s right, if it brings peace and Ukraine is ok with it, you go for it.
Man, if Z and Trump planned this to get EU/UK to step up NATO support, securing the US in NATO too - NATO ain’t NATO without the US, this could be a massive boon!
Or Trumps a Russian asset.
Uh oh….
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I think this is more of a kool-aid scenario.
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If there were a deal then the news would have been about the deal that was signed. The news is about being ready to sign a deal, meaning there is nothing.