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enchilada_style said:
If I remember right, the Biden administration did not ignore the ruling but they did appeal it. Trumps people said to ignore the court ruling to not send people to El Salvador and of course Trump did in fact ignore the court ruling. See the difference?
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I see that the point went right over your head. AOC is the new face of the democratic party and she told Biden to ignore the courts. More liberal hypocrisy.
 
We'll have none of that conservative stuff on jazzfanz!! Long live the liberals and Trump haters.
 
Sardines said:
Thing is, I'm open to arguments in favor of closing down the DOE, but none have been made. All this stuff is happening and no discussion is involved. What are the pros and cons of shutting down the DOE, because their obviously has to be both, pros and cons.

Can we have a discussion? Can a thoughtful reason be presented?
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Fair enough. DOE was created by Congress and shutting it down should also go through Congress which would require some discussion.
 
Sardines said:
Thing is, I'm open to arguments in favor of closing down the DOE, but none have been made. All this stuff is happening and no discussion is involved. What are the pros and cons of shutting down the DOE, because their obviously has to be both, pros and cons.

Can we have a discussion? Can a thoughtful reason be presented?
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Silly liberal.

Discussion? Lol

Kill the DOE. That way we make the libs cry, states can divert the monies to charters and private schools with connections to Christian nationalists, and we won’t have to educate any DEI students or enforce policies that we don’t like (like equality for women or civil rights for DEIs and SPEDs).

Discussion? Lol

How quaint.
 
enchilada_style said:
Fair enough. DOE was created by Congress and shutting it down should also go through Congress which would require some discussion.
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But discussion might lead to voters yelling at us in town halls. That’s not good.

But we can’t stand up against what Trump or president Elon are doing, because they’ll primary us with their influence and money. It’s much easier to just stay quiet, do hits on Fox News, and let Elon do all our dirty work for us.

As long as we bow down to Trump and president Elon, we’ll avoid primaries. And as long as we avoid town halls, we avoid our own voters. Besides, American voters are too stupid to remember anything past a week. So we just gotta endure the next lil bit. Then we can blame problems on some DEI or gay.
 
The Thriller said:
Silly liberal.

Discussion? Lol

Kill the DOE. That way we make the libs cry, states can divert the monies to charters and private schools with connections to Christian nationalists, and we won’t have to educate any DEI students or enforce policies that we don’t like (like equality for women or civil rights for DEIs and SPEDs).

Discussion? Lol

How quaint.
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This really does feel like a Christian thing, like public schools don't push Christianity hard enough so public school needs to go because church attendance is down.

I don't think all this is going to go where Christian Nationalists are hoping it will go.
 
Sardines said:
This really does feel like a Christian thing, like public schools don't push Christianity hard enough so public school needs to go because church attendance is down.

I don't think all this is going to go where Christian Nationalists are hoping it will go.
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For those of us who’ve followed politics, especially in the post tea party era, this has been at the top of their list, much like abortion. Republicans have hated the DOE for decades because it enforced policies that helped DEIs and girls. And just like abortion, returning enforcement of policies and funding to “the states” is merely code for red states ****ing over minorities and women while enriching their friends. In education, that means enriching Christian nationalist schools.
 
Sardines said:
Thing is, I'm open to arguments in favor of closing down the DOE, but none have been made. All this stuff is happening and no discussion is involved. What are the pros and cons of shutting down the DOE, because their obviously has to be both, pros and cons.

Can we have a discussion? Can a thoughtful reason be presented?
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Ron DeSantis, the head of the state rated as having the best education system in the nation, published exactly the think-piece you are asking for.

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enchilada_style said:
Great. Run it through congress.
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I don't disagree. If they are actually going to shut it down, then Congress should be holding the axe. That very well may be the plan.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump set to sign executive order shuttering the Education Department

Closing the department requires an act of Congress, but Trump could make it nearly impossible for remaining employees to carry out their work, much like at USAID.
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Trump has suggested that he could garner enough congressional support to formally close the department, characterizing teachers unions as more of a threat to the plan than lawmakers.

“I think I’d work with Congress,” Trump said last month in the Oval Office.
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The leaks about the Executive Order set to be signed is about shifting the handling of Federal student loans and other services from the Department of Education over to other departments so the service on those goes uninterrupted.
 
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