Water does not prevent dehydration......

[Duck Rodgers]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html

EU officials concluded that, following a three-year investigation, there was no evidence to prove the previously undisputed fact.

This message brought to you by the EU ministry of truth. Always believe your government.

 

[LogGrad98]

Rules banning bent bananas and curved cucumbers were scrapped in 2008 after causing international ridicule.

Bent bananas are of the devil. Where is Craig to decry this evil when we need him?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And Europeans think Americans are dumb.

 

[bigb]

Bent bananas are of the devil. Where is Craig to decry this evil when we need him?

Have you ever eaten a straight banana? Disgusting. I will only eat bent bananas.

 

[babe]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html



This message brought to you by the EU ministry of truth. Always believe your government.

So, folks, this isn't just funny, it's the law. Worldwide, including in the United States. International standards for medical claims are being enforced by regional governance. A few years ago, the FDA and FTC in concert with Canadian and Mexican cohorts began fining herbal retailers, vitamin and supplement distributors who made any statement not backed by peer-reviewed research on their labels, on the internet, or any media. Most companies just paid the fine and went out of business. But Big Pharma pill pushers don't have to comply with these laws, and they don't have to submit any peer-reviewed "research" to the FDA to get their pills on the market, nor to back up any of their medical claims. There is such a "revolving door" arrangement with personnel rotating between industry jobs and FDA assignments, all the Big Pharma companies have their people on the inside at the FDA. These big players get their stuff approved merely on their "word of honor", just a nudge or payoff to the man with the application in his file.

this is how excessive regulation generally works to drive out the little guys for the big cartelists with their lobbyists and satchels of campaign cash.

What we need to do is to Occupy The Bureaucracy.

 

[moevillini]

if it's used primarily as a marketing claim by the processors of bottled water, then I don't really disagree with the EU ban on those processors making that claim and using it in marketing their products


bottled water is stupid, unless you're somewhere where the tap water has too many impurities

 

[Archie Moses]

Have you ever eaten a straight banana? Disgusting. I will only eat bent bananas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGMuIyBK5P4

Bent bananas destroy atheists.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

In related news, EU scientists say it cannot be proven that having legs provides the means to walk or run.
There are cases of people with legs that cannot walk or run.

As a side note, the country of Salty Dawg has proclaimed bottled water to be a weapon.
Salty Dawg is a new member of the EU, and it's president is on the scientific council.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

if it's used primarily as a marketing claim by the processors of bottled water, then I don't really disagree with the EU ban on those processors making that claim and using it in marketing their products


bottled water is stupid, unless you're somewhere where the tap water has too many impurities

I usually prefer the taste of tap water to bottled. I also remember hearing somewhere that usually in the US, tap water is more pure than bottled water because higher standards are placed on tap water.

 

[YB85]

In related news, EU scientists say it cannot be proven that having legs provides the means to walk or run.
There are cases of people with legs that cannot walk or run.

As a side note, the country of Salty Dawg has proclaimed bottled water to be a weapon.
Salty Dawg is a new member of the EU, and it's president is on the scientific council.

If this turns into "Pittbulls, Pt.2" I'm giving you a -9.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

If this turns into "Pittbulls, Pt.2" I'm giving you a -9.

It won't. I'm just throwing a little salt on the wound.

 

[LogGrad98]

If this turns into "Pittbulls, Pt.2" I'm giving you a -9.

It won't. I'm just throwing a little salt on the wound.

Oh it might. It depends on what the definition of "not" is. Or something similarly specious.

 

[bigb]

Oh it might. It depends on what the definition of "not" is. Or something similarly specious.

That would totally depend on which dictionary website you choose to use.

 

[One Brow]

A few years ago, the FDA and FTC in concert with Canadian and Mexican cohorts began fining herbal retailers, vitamin and supplement distributors who made any statement not backed by peer-reviewed research on their labels, on the internet, or any media.

Only half true. They are still allowed to make claims that have no medical meaning. So, they can't say that shaken water (aka homeopathic remedies) cure cancer, but they can still says it boosts the immune system, and similar nonesense.

Most companies just paid the fine and went out of business.

Most companies changed their claims and are still raking in a huge amount of money for products that have no medicinal value.

But Big Pharma pill pushers don't have to comply with these laws,

Flat-out false. Pharmaceuticals have to go though numerous rounds of testing for efficiency for a particular medical condition, as well as safety on any newly released drug. Some drugs have been around before the current system existed (for example, aspirin), and have not been subjected to such testing. Anytime pharmaceuticals make a new medical claim for a product, they must produce additional testing for that claim.

There is such a "revolving door" arrangement with personnel rotating between industry jobs and FDA assignments, all the Big Pharma companies have their people on the inside at the FDA.

That would not surprise me, but it does not make your other claims true.

 

[TheItinerantSon]

So, folks, this isn't just funny, it's the law. Worldwide, including in the United States. International standards for medical claims are being enforced by regional governance. A few years ago, the FDA and FTC in concert with Canadian and Mexican cohorts began fining herbal retailers, vitamin and supplement distributors who made any statement not backed by peer-reviewed research on their labels, on the internet, or any media. Most companies just paid the fine and went out of business. But Big Pharma pill pushers don't have to comply with these laws, and they don't have to submit any peer-reviewed "research" to the FDA to get their pills on the market, nor to back up any of their medical claims. There is such a "revolving door" arrangement with personnel rotating between industry jobs and FDA assignments, all the Big Pharma companies have their people on the inside at the FDA. These big players get their stuff approved merely on their "word of honor", just a nudge or payoff to the man with the application in his file.

this is how excessive regulation generally works to drive out the little guys for the big cartelists with their lobbyists and satchels of campaign cash.

What we need to do is to Occupy The Bureaucracy.

this is a joke right?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Only half true. They are still allowed to make claims that have no medical meaning. So, they can't say that shaken water (aka homeopathic remedies) cure cancer, but they can still says it boosts the immune system, and similar nonesense.



Most companies changed their claims and are still raking in a huge amount of money for products that have no medicinal value.



Flat-out false. Pharmaceuticals have to go though numerous rounds of testing for efficiency for a particular medical condition, as well as safety on any newly released drug. Some drugs have been around before the current system existed (for example, aspirin), and have not been subjected to such testing. Anytime pharmaceuticals make a new medical claim for a product, they must produce additional testing for that claim.



That would not surprise me, but it does not make your other claims true.

Which Pharmaceutical company do you work for?

 

[One Brow]

Which Pharmaceutical company do you work for?

One Brow Pharmaceuticals, of course.

 

[babe]

Only half true. They are still allowed to make claims that have no medical meaning. So, they can't say that shaken water (aka homeopathic remedies) cure cancer, but they can still says it boosts the immune system, and similar nonesense.



Most companies changed their claims and are still raking in a huge amount of money for products that have no medicinal value.



Flat-out false. Pharmaceuticals have to go though numerous rounds of testing for efficiency for a particular medical condition, as well as safety on any newly released drug. Some drugs have been around before the current system existed (for example, aspirin), and have not been subjected to such testing. Anytime pharmaceuticals make a new medical claim for a product, they must produce additional testing for that claim.



That would not surprise me, but it does not make your other claims true.

Rules mean nothing when you're on the inside track. Take a look at all the recent lawsuits that have been lodged against the Big Pharma elites, and at what the FDA response has been. Rather than anyone on the inside being willing to reform their system, they have sought and obtain new legal protections against damages from the people who die, or are irreparably affected by their products.

Anyone who will take a position of blanket denial that this system is broken is just unwilling to break with their mental addiction to our government authority.

 

[babe]

For One Brow:

required reading before offering any more ad hoc opinions that the FDA is your friend:

https://www.mttlr.org/volfifteen/miller.pdf

Note: this is a legal review article based on "conventional wisdom" which recommends that governments should not consider FDA approvals of pharmaceuticals as the final authority for our society, considering the reliance of the FDA on applicant's statements in approving their drugs, bribery, and fraud issues, and the agencies insufficient ability to screen for all risks within any reasonable period of time.

It is a continuing debate, with the FDA and drug companies on the side of making FDA approval a competent and final defense against liability claims from patients under the theory that the FDA process affords the optimum protection to patients.

 

[One Brow]

Rules mean nothing when you're on the inside track. Take a look at all the recent lawsuits that have been lodged against the Big Pharma elites, and at what the FDA response has been.

You mean how Merck was fined hundreds of millions? $50 million of that was for advertising a pain-killer as a treatment for ar6thritis before it was approved by the FDA,

Rather than anyone on the inside being willing to reform their system, they have sought and obtain new legal protections against damages from the people who die, or are irreparably affected by their products.

Yes, the pharmaceuticals do not differ from the supplementers there. They're not particularly more successful, either.

Anyone who will take a position of blanket denial that this system is broken is just unwilling to break with their mental addiction to our government authority.

I'm unwilling to break my addiction to facts to bolster my preferred conspiracy theory.