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Siro

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I follow biotech news pretty closely, and it seems that the mechanisms for aging and, ultimately, death are becoming more and more understood. I am hearing about longevity breakthroughs almost every month (in animal trials), and the prospects of at least living healthy to an advanced age are becoming more realistic. 10 years ago, I read a book that suggested immortality was an achievable goal, and that death was not an inevitable consequence of life. Back then, this concept was absolutely outrageous, and the author was ruthlessly attacked for promoting pseudoscience. But the science of aging is now close to being mainstream, and I hear speculation about humanity's eventual immortality quite often. It has even begun appearing in movies and science fiction literature as a norm of the far-future life. I, as a complete naturalist, am pretty confident that practical immortality will be achieved within, at most, a hundred years.

My question is, how would you feel about such a development? I would like you to forget about the obvious ramifications of immortality (overpopulation, crippling social change mechanisms, deeply disturbing understood economic paradigms, and so on) Imagine that those issues were overcome, and you can live your life more or less as you do now (family, work, study, travel, entertainment, etc). How would that affect your life? How would it change your views? Would you like it? Would you choose a different path in life? Would you reject it and opt for a normal life span?

When I pose this question to science oriented people, I typically get cautiously optimistic reactions. But I would like see the reaction of more mixed group of people. And please give this question some thought as how it would affect you. Not just a rushed "life has no meaning without death" impulse.

P.S. In this scenario, you have the choice of being fully immortal. That means you can't even die in an accident. Your brain contents are backed up every hour or so on a remote server, and the worst that can happen is losing an hour of continuity. Meaning, you can be perfectly reconstituted with your memory, consciousness, and personality fully intact.
 
How would I feel? Honestly, I would love an opportunity to continue to see how the world develops and unfolds. There is always something fascinating happening. Plus the older I get, the more I realize that youth is definitely wasted on the young. I would love an opportunity to continue to live a viable life with the wisdom garnered only through age and experience.

If a time came that I was tired of continuing to live, then choosing to die needs to be an option. But from my limited perspective right now I personally don't see that happening for a long time.
 
Immortality could be the greatest gift and the worst nightmare.
 
How would I feel? Honestly, I would love an opportunity to continue to see how the world develops and unfolds. There is always something fascinating happening. Plus the older I get, the more I realize that youth is definitely wasted on the young. I would love an opportunity to continue to live a viable life with the wisdom garnered only through age and experience.

If a time came that I was tired of continuing to live, then choosing to die needs to be an option. But from my limited perspective right now I personally don't see that happening for a long time.

Clearly you'd have an option to die, or maybe even to pause your life for as long as you want. Immortality would be terrifying if you didn't have a way out.
 
I forget the name of the movie but it's where women can't become pregnant anymore and the world falls into a continual state of war and depression. Wouldn't that be a direct result of immortality?

The needs of the living will always trump the needs of unborn - the only way to control population growth is through restricting childbirth.

The human race is like every other living organism on the planet - it needs to renew itself otherwise it would destroy itself.

Not to mention it would pretty much end the institution of marriage - who the hell would want to be married to someone forever?
 
I forget the name of the movie but it's where women can't become pregnant anymore and the world falls into a continual state of war and depression. Wouldn't that be a direct result of immortality?

The needs of the living will always trump the needs of unborn - the only way to control population growth is through restricting childbirth.

The human race is like every other living organism on the planet - it needs to renew itself otherwise it would destroy itself.

Not to mention it would pretty much end the institution of marriage - who the hell would want to be married to someone forever?

The movie you're thinking of is The Children of Men. It had nothing to do with immortality, if I remember correctly. It was an epidemic that made everyone infertile.

Immortality would obviously have vast and incredible impact on every aspect of society. Some people would still get married (many Mormons find the idea of being with their families forever appealing, for example), but I imagine marriage would become a less powerful social convention, and the social and legal frameworks for ending partnerships would be simplified.

The situation with overpopulation is a bit more complex. I am working under the assumption that the third world will continue to improve and progress until we have some type of global parity (among nations and such, individual inequality will persist). Pretty much ALL population growth comes from poor underdeveloped countries. The rate of population growth drops significantly and inevitably whenever a culture modernize and adopts modern norms like individualism and materialism. Some developed nations actually experience a decline in population. You probably would still have a small population growth rate when nobody is dying, but it can be manageable.

That does not HAVE to happen. Certain problems might prove too difficult to overcome, and immortality might prove impractical and even harmful. I am asking you to imagine a scenario where immortality actually proves feasible.
 
I forget the name of the movie but it's where women can't become pregnant anymore and the world falls into a continual state of war and depression. Wouldn't that be a direct result of immortality?

The needs of the living will always trump the needs of unborn - the only way to control population growth is through restricting childbirth.

The human race is like every other living organism on the planet - it needs to renew itself otherwise it would destroy itself.

Not to mention it would pretty much end the institution of marriage - who the hell would want to be married to someone forever?

Those that get temple married?
 
Now my answer. The prospect seems a bit strange to me. Most of us concern ourselves with what we leave behind, our legacy, if you will. I have no way of knowing, but it seems that void of the urgency death creates, would we still have the required motivation to accomplish goals? If we were truly immortal, how mant would find it more paralyzing than liberating.

Interesting to think about.
 
Now my answer. The prospect seems a bit strange to me. Most of us concern ourselves with what we leave behind, our legacy, if you will. I have no way of knowing, but it seems that void of the urgency death creates, would we still have the required motivation to accomplish goals? If we were truly immortal, how mant would find it more paralyzing than liberating.

Interesting to think about.

Precisely the kind of stuff I'm looking for.
 
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