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Kanter 30 Pts and 16 Rebs... And Now the Rest of the Story...

dunno about Al, but Vucevic for sure. Enes is much more mobile than Al ever was, and is a better rebounder.
My post was a little confusing..... what I meant to say is that Orlando and Charlotte would be winning teams if you put westbrook on them. Basically, if you have an mvp candidate then your team is good. I think that the thunder could win some games even without kanter...... he isn't the reason that they are a winning team
 
Why are we still talking about Kanter?

I think for the most part, Jazz fans have an inferiority complex. Many of yous act like you were just broken up with and now you're trying to rationalize everything.

Kanter is gone, our team has improved. Move on.


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My post was a little confusing..... what I meant to say is that Orlando and Charlotte would be winning teams if you put westbrook on them. Basically, if you have an mvp candidate then your team is good. I think that the thunder could win some games even without kanter...... he isn't the reason that they are a winning team

Their record is better since getting Kanter than it was before. Fact. They also lost key players like Durant (again), Ibaka, Roberson, and Adams (but he's come back) and they've still amassed a winning record in his tenure. It has been the Westbrook and Kanter show with Morrow and Waiters having a special game here and there.

Mcgary and Adams have been legit too. Point is, Enes has been a positive for them. Everyone can be pissed and say he's scum and a cancer, but he's found a fit there. A fit that is going to get better when the better defenders come back.
 
Their record is better since getting Kanter than it was before. Fact. They also lost key players like Durant (again), Ibaka, Roberson, and Adams (but he's come back) and they were still winning. It has been the Westbrook and Kanter show with Morrow and Waiters having a special game here and there.
Fair enough.
 
He's not about himself he's been raging about OKC locker room and professional culture. He's very much a team player and always has been. Back in college he was ruled illeligible for KU but he didn't leave the team to hire a training staff and Kobe like Exum did. Instead he stuck with the team and practiced with them to help them grow. Now he's doing everything Brooks is asking him to do. He did everything Utah asked him to so even though they were stunting his growth.

Yeah, doing everything that Brooks wants except being committed to defense. As always.

Further, when guys who actually make their team better have career nights scoring and rebounding, their teams win. Guys who just put up stats on O who do the same watch their teams lose. DESPITE the career numbers on offense.
 
Yeah, doing everything that Brooks wants except being committed to defense. As always.

Further, when guys who actually make their team better have career nights scoring and rebounding, their teams win. Guys who just put up stats on O who do the same watch their teams lose. DESPITE the career numbers on offense.

except OKC has a better winning % with Enes than w/o him. Despite them having lost the league's MVP for the season, and one of the league's best shot blockers for a big important stretch.
 
except OKC has a better winning % with Enes than w/o him. Despite them having lost the league's MVP for the season, and one of the league's best shot blockers for a big important stretch.

And yet Kanter put up career numbers last night and they still lost. Explain.
 
I'm tired of reading about Kanter...look he didn't try hard in Utah and we didn't have the players that could work with him. OKC seems to have players that he can work with. OKC has a ton of talent with Westbrook, Ibaka and Durant. But these guys need to be healthy. I can see OKC playing well when all healthy with Kanter.
But we needed to get rid of him, we are better without him.
So lets move on and be happy we are playing so well
 
And yet Kanter put up career numbers last night and they still lost. Explain.

I already did. Kanter and Adams aren't good against stretch players like Dirk/Parsons. Anyways, the crucial run happened when Enes wasn't even in the game. Waiters doesn't stop anyone.

Dallas is a very good team too. OKC is running on fumes with all of their injuries. It's not like they were blown out.

Your perception is clouded by a Trevor Booker soundbite.
 
And yet Kanter put up career numbers last night and they still lost. Explain.

have to understand alittle bit about basketbaall 1st........Kanter got 30 pts on 13 shots ,Morrow got 32 pts on 16 shots......and Westbrook 31 pts on 32 shots

Westbrook is great BUT the one man hero ball isn't going to win against the good teams
2nd ly you do know who Durant and Ibaka are don't you .......that's like losing Hayward and Favors and wondering why Utah lost
Get a clue
 
It is not like Enes is putting up these stats on a losing team like Nikola Vucevic or Al Jefferson. Since Serge Ibaka is down OKC is 7-4. Ibaka is literally the perfect compliment for Kanter because he is a rim protector and has long range which opens up inside for Kanter. Everytime OKC loses if Kanter had bad stats people will say "see Kanter did bad." If OKC loses and Kanter puts up good stats people will quote the legendary Trevor Booker. Can't expect OKC to win every game especially with injuries.

Forget about the win/loss thing. The Thunder gave up 72 points in the paint, an absurd statistic (the league average is around 45), with Kanter as the main big man. Defense wins ballgames and Kanter doesn't do it. The end.
 
Personally I am sick of reading about Kanter on a Utah Jazz site.

The guy is an offensive weapon that needs improving with his defense. He is only 22 years old and we don't have anyone putting up his offensive numbers.

The fact is he is getting national attention for the numbers he is putting up. As he is only 22 his defense will improve during the next 10 years in his prime. The guy will be an all-star one day.

He is gone now and whether you like him or not I wish we could just let him go so we can discuss those things relevant to the Jazz.
 
I'm going to watch every Utah/Cleveland game and watch LeBron abuse Hayward everywhere on the court. I bet they go at Hayward until Utah cannot afford to keep him on the floor.

Hayward has been on teams that have beat LeBron a few times in his career already.
 
Personally I am sick of reading about Kanter on a Utah Jazz site.

The guy is an offensive weapon that needs improving with his defense. He is only 22 years old and we don't have anyone putting up his offensive numbers.

The fact is he is getting national attention for the numbers he is putting up. As he is only 22 his defense will improve during the next 10 years in his prime. The guy will be an all-star one day.

He is gone now and whether you like him or not I wish we could just let him go so we can discuss those things relevant to the Jazz.

We talk about ex Jazz players/coaches/personnel. People still bring up Greg Foster, Chris Morris, dudes from 80's, etc... Once you're a Jazz man, you're relevant.
 
How about Ostertag playing hockey?

I once saw him at Century 16 and he was wearing sweatpants that were so small they looked like capris, and a very ratty knitted christmas sweater. If I didn't know who he was, I would've thought him a very large homeless dude.
 
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