Carbon13
Well-Known Member
Hezonja? #trollin
Following potential 2015 draftees
- Thread starter Dr. Jones
- Start date
Hezonja? #trollin
Chargers Jazz Angels
Well-Known Member
oubre I think
Matt Harpring during tonight's broadcast:
"People often ask me what do the Jazz need next year. What I say to that is we need a BIG THIRD BIG. Someone who can come in when Gobert and Favors is sitting. Preferably someone who can stretch the floor - that's what you need in the league now".
Read between the lines people. Read. Between. The. Lines.
"People often ask me what do the Jazz need next year. What I say to that is we need a BIG THIRD BIG. Someone who can come in when Gobert and Favors is sitting. Preferably someone who can stretch the floor - that's what you need in the league now".
Read between the lines people. Read. Between. The. Lines.
framer
Well-Known Member
I'm almost 100% convinced that if we can't get Tomic we are targeting Kaminsky. Thing is, that I'm beginning to think he isn't going to be there at 11 or 12. Somebody is likely to take a chance on that in the top 10. I've said it since February. . . I'm still wondering why we need Mario when we have Hood. Of course we really don't NEED anything but a backup C. and we can get one outside the draft. Johnson would be a nice upgrade for Millsap. . .
Kaminsky will be a target for sure. He can stretch the floor where Gobert, and Favors can't.
I'd prefer we bring over Tomic, and draft a Mario though. Why draft Mario when we have Hood? For one Hood health is a mild concern.
Also, you can never have enough shooters. Mario would make us better. With both of our wings having injury problems Mario would be a nice insurance policy.
Chargers Jazz Angels
Well-Known Member
let me ask you if we have to move up who would you rather target kaminsky or hezonja?
We won't be moving up.
framer
Well-Known Member
This. I think we have a greater shot at moving down or out than moving up. I think there will be a good player sitting there at 12 that we don't have to give up anything for. Also, I think we have a plan in place for backup center outside the draft, so Kaminsky isn't a "must have." If he falls to us, however. . .
Your mom
Porzingis, Turner, Looney...
Baller
I think there are scenarios where the Jazz could trade up, but it won't be far....like moving up from 10 to 7 or 8 by throwing in a player or future pick.
I don't honestly see another team giving us Hezonja, maybe Porzingis or Turner if the team's not sold on those guys.
Without lottery luck, we aren't going to get Towns, Okafor, Mudiay, Russell, Hezonja, Winslow or WCS. Probably Porzingis either. After that the talent levels a bit and it could be beauty in the eye of the beholder, meaning a team could be swayed.
Johnson, Oubre, Turner, Looney ... or Kaminsky.
Or we say **** it and draft a combo guard.
I don't honestly see another team giving us Hezonja, maybe Porzingis or Turner if the team's not sold on those guys.
Without lottery luck, we aren't going to get Towns, Okafor, Mudiay, Russell, Hezonja, Winslow or WCS. Probably Porzingis either. After that the talent levels a bit and it could be beauty in the eye of the beholder, meaning a team could be swayed.
Johnson, Oubre, Turner, Looney ... or Kaminsky.
Or we say **** it and draft a combo guard.
For where we're picking, I think Spy sums it up best when he said our best case scenario would be either Kaminsky or Johnson.
Oubre, Turner and Looney are all just a bit too risky for me. And I don't know if the Jazz as an organisation is big on taking this kind of risk.
Jazz4ever
Well-Known Member
Exum and Kanter were incredibly risky picks. Zero college or workout experience for both.
Maybe Hayward, Favors, and Gobert's emergence changes that a little, but I still see them passing on a "no star chance" player like Frank.
OK let's look at these guys one-by-one then.
Kanter - that draft was pretty bereft of talent with guys like Barnes pulling out of the draft. Kanter was considered a lock and by far the best talent at 3. In fact many expected Minny to take him 2nd.
Exum - Similarly he's considered a top 4 pick, the fact that he dropped to 5 to me means the pick can be considered a 'safe' pick for us.
Hayward - safe pick for what he brings (shooting, ball handling).
Favors - a little risky, but we had to take what we were given for DWill
Burks - He was pegged around 7-10 if IIRC, so again he dropped quite a bit and we grabbed him so I wouldn't say he's risky.
Burke - National Player of the Year.. steady PG, good handle, low TO, great 3pt %.
Gobert - Risky pick yes, but remember we bought that pick, it was affordable and so late in the 1st that it was an 'safe' risk to take (we already had out 'safe' pick with Burke in that draft)
Hood - he was considered a lotto pick by some, so it was a safe pick for what he brings and where he's picked (late 1st)
I think overall, the Jazz had been 'cautious' about who they pick. Their 'risky' picks have come when that player drop well below their expected spots. We didn't Greek Freak or Caboclo with our own pick. I would be surprised if we ended up with either Oubre or Looney or even Turner (given his health uncertainties)
Coach Ellis
Well-Known Member
Mine too. I'm just pointing out that IF the Jazz end up at 11 and IF they don't trade up and IF all the teams in front of them pick one of those 11 guys. . . then the WORST the Jazz can end up with is Oubre or Kaminsky.
Since I don't think that Top 4 is a legitimate option, I'm all in on the idea of trading up and adding a SF sized wing (Hezonja or Johnson) or a backup big (WCS or Porzingiz) in that 7/8 range. Somebody good will be there. Go up and get them. Then let this roster cook. Hood, Exum and Gobert are already showing signs of being special. I'm interested in seeing who takes the big jumps next year.
Chargers Jazz Angels
Well-Known Member
it's sad I wouldn't complain about a draft of frank the tank but since kkk has been pimping him I don't want anything to do with him.
LOL .. I haven't been 'pimping' him, I'm being realistic. For where we're picking, it's either him or the Oubre, Looney, Turner trio.
I'm a realist, not a dreamer.