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Is it Jerry's fault we never have good shooters?

Marty McFly

Marty McFly

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My dad has said for years that our players are so worried about missing a shot and getting pulled/yelled at by coach Sloan that they think too hard about aiming, start pressing and end up shooting worse than normal. This obviously doesn't apply to all players, but it seems like many of these supposed deadeyes suddenly lose their jumpers once they start playing here.
 
ahh yes, the "Gordon Giricek syndrome" where player love to break plays to take bad shots & never play defense. imo, this is why Raja is getting more PT than we think he should, CJ never got good minutes, wesley started, & quincy lewis/mo almond/sasha pavlovic never stuck around. i only wish DeShawn was mature enough when we had him.
 
We've had Horny and Kyle Korver who were Top-5 Shooters when they played. I don't really think the Jazz target "shooters" because they are usually one-dimensional stiffs.
 
I think this is a complex, multi-faceted issue. However, when you're a coach -especially with as much power and tenure as he has with this franchise - you will always rightfully take some responsibility for both the good and bad. With this issue in particular I would say that is the case.
 
I think it is the type of shot Jerry asks them to take. Harp and Korver figured out the curl...many have not.
 
Marty McFly said:
My dad has said for years that our players are so worried about missing a shot and getting pulled/yelled at by coach Sloan that they think too hard about aiming, start pressing and end up shooting worse than normal. This obviously doesn't apply to all players, but it seems like many of these supposed deadeyes suddenly lose their jumpers once they start playing here.
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I've always just thought it was the Utah effect, how Utah teams always go cold when they get to the big times. If it wasn't for the pick and roll gig, Utah would never make it to the playoffs. Jazz hafta shoot from five feet closer to the basket than other teams, and they can never make a layup.

And then it's that whole predictable pattern Sloan has that gives the opponents advance notice of almost every play we run. . . .

The opposing coach literally has the complete gameplan set in concrete, plain as day, for him to study for a year in advance. . . . .
 
David Stern said:
We've had Horny and Kyle Korver who were Top-5 Shooters when they played. I don't really think the Jazz target "shooters" because they are usually one-dimensional stiffs.
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Do most teams that win championships have these "one dimensional shooters" in their lineup or coming off the bench?
 
VINYLONE said:
Do most teams that win championships have these "one dimensional shooters" in their lineup or coming off the bench?
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All of the Bull's teams did. Craig Hodges, John Paxson, Jud Buechler, Steve Kerr, et. al. These were more one-dimensional than Hornacek for sure, whom I do not view as a very one-dimensional player. I would even argue that Korver was active more on the defensive end than most of these guys, but that is debatable.
 
And is there any player more one-dimensional that Robert Horry?
 
LogGrad98 said:
All of the Bull's teams did. Craig Hodges, John Paxson, Jud Buechler, Steve Kerr, et. al. These were more one-dimensional than Hornacek for sure, whom I do not view as a very one-dimensional player. I would even argue that Korver was active more on the defensive end than most of these guys, but that is debatable.
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Chicago was able to do it because with the Triangle you do not really need a point guard. The current Lakers teams exemplifies that as well.
 
I think Jerry Sloan's motto of "we work for layups" is what affects our shooting. Kyle Korver said once in the locker room, "we don't have one play designed for a three pointer". There are several teams that run the break to get a three. Maybe if the Jazz designed plays to get shooters open, we may be able to knock down a few more. But, we can't expect a team to shoot well when eight players are 2nd rounders or not drafted.
 
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