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Following potential 2015 draftees

White Chocolate said:
I'm surprised DX has Porz going #3, but hey you never know Orlando took AG last year at #4 when they were supposed to take Exum.
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It's not just #3, it's #3 + Philly. And Hinkie is descendant of Morey, who's always looking at "market inefficiencies". Player skills that are undervalued. Buying wins for cheap.
And one of the biggest potential impact you can draft for is skilled 7 footer. There aren't that many of them on this planet.
So it makes sense to be interested in the highest value potential.
Saric isn't coming over that soon. He'll play 3 years(that's 2 more now) over there until he's off the rookie scale.
Developing 3 bigs is no problem, as there are 96 min to share between them each game and Embiid, Noel and Porzingis would all be interchangible bigs depending on matchups.
We'll find out soon how interested the Sixers are in Porzingis. They also have incentives to score high lottery picks for 2 more years as these 2 upcoming drafts contain serious value at the top.

As for D'Angelo being the clear cut choice at 3:
PGs is the position with the biggest depth in the league. If Russell will become a star before he signs his first big contract, a max contract is inefficient on the market. Having a 27 year old late bloomer on a team favorable contract is better than having a max player who's only slightly better than aforementioned.

If they continue to draft "best upside" I expect them to aggressively attack RFA PGs at some point.
Or they will settle for a defense first PG if they can get a playmaking wing like LeBron/Harden. Teams dont have a lot of games every year to test schemes they could throw at them.

Handlogten's Heros said:
GS has to get rid of Lee... between luxury tax and his salary they can save $50 M by getting rid of him and not taking salary back. That is a lot of dough.

That said they can probably get Philly to take Lee by using the 30th pick (they need to use it first so timing is a little weird) and their 2019 pick or Ezeli. Don't think they will need to give up Barnes.
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No they don't. Their owner is heavy and winning is the best way to elevate the value of your franchise. If they want to utilize Lee's skillset more next season, they can easily retain him and pay the tax.
That franchise is making money anyways, their value is skyrocketing, one of the best attendances for years.
If they deal Lee to save Money, that would be a Reinsdorf move...

Cy said:
Giannis isn't that good. Kind of overrated.
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I guess Otto Porter will obliterate him in next year's playoffs.

Hack said:
How many times does that highly ranked overrated European player turn out to be better than the top American phenoms?
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Well define what you mean by "highly ranked overrated European player".
Born in Europe? Developed in Europe? Playing in Europe before entering the NBA? No College experience?
I could take a quick peek at that...
 
BTP said:
It's not just #3, it's #3 + Philly. And Hinkie is descendant of Morey, who's always looking at "market inefficiencies". Player skills that are undervalued. Buying wins for cheap.
And one of the biggest potential impact you can draft for is skilled 7 footer. There aren't that many of them on this planet.
So it makes sense to be interested in the highest value potential.
Saric isn't coming over that soon. He'll play 3 years(that's 2 more now) over there until he's off the rookie scale.
Developing 3 bigs is no problem, as there are 96 min to share between them each game and Embiid, Noel and Porzingis would all be interchangible bigs depending on matchups.
We'll find out soon how interested the Sixers are in Porzingis. They also have incentives to score high lottery picks for 2 more years as these 2 upcoming drafts contain serious value at the top.

As for D'Angelo being the clear cut choice at 3:
PGs is the position with the biggest depth in the league. If Russell will become a star before he signs his first big contract, a max contract is inefficient on the market. Having a 27 year old late bloomer on a team favorable contract is better than having a max player who's only slightly better than aforementioned.

If they continue to draft "best upside" I expect them to aggressively attack RFA PGs at some point.
Or they will settle for a defense first PG if they can get a playmaking wing like LeBron/Harden. Teams dont have a lot of games every year to test schemes they could throw at them.



No they don't. Their owner is heavy and winning is the best way to elevate the value of your franchise. If they want to utilize Lee's skillset more next season, they can easily retain him and pay the tax.
That franchise is making money anyways, their value is skyrocketing, one of the best attendances for years.
If they deal Lee to save Money, that would be a Reinsdorf move...



I guess Otto Porter will obliterate him in next year's playoffs.



Well define what you mean by "highly ranked overrated European player".
Born in Europe? Developed in Europe? Playing in Europe before entering the NBA? No College experience?
I could take a quick peek at that...
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Porter is more playable in a playoff series than Giannis. Teams would just ignore Giannis and let him shoot open jumpers.
 
BTP said:
It's not just #3, it's #3 + Philly. And Hinkie is descendant of Morey, who's always looking at "market inefficiencies". Player skills that are undervalued. Buying wins for cheap.
And one of the biggest potential impact you can draft for is skilled 7 footer. There aren't that many of them on this planet.
So it makes sense to be interested in the highest value potential.
Saric isn't coming over that soon. He'll play 3 years(that's 2 more now) over there until he's off the rookie scale.
Developing 3 bigs is no problem, as there are 96 min to share between them each game and Embiid, Noel and Porzingis would all be interchangible bigs depending on matchups.
We'll find out soon how interested the Sixers are in Porzingis. They also have incentives to score high lottery picks for 2 more years as these 2 upcoming drafts contain serious value at the top.

As for D'Angelo being the clear cut choice at 3:
PGs is the position with the biggest depth in the league. If Russell will become a star before he signs his first big contract, a max contract is inefficient on the market. Having a 27 year old late bloomer on a team favorable contract is better than having a max player who's only slightly better than aforementioned.

If they continue to draft "best upside" I expect them to aggressively attack RFA PGs at some point.
Or they will settle for a defense first PG if they can get a playmaking wing like LeBron/Harden. Teams dont have a lot of games every year to test schemes they could throw at them.



No they don't. Their owner is heavy and winning is the best way to elevate the value of your franchise. If they want to utilize Lee's skillset more next season, they can easily retain him and pay the tax.
That franchise is making money anyways, their value is skyrocketing, one of the best attendances for years.
If they deal Lee to save Money, that would be a Reinsdorf move...



I guess Otto Porter will obliterate him in next year's playoffs.



Well define what you mean by "highly ranked overrated European player".
Born in Europe? Developed in Europe? Playing in Europe before entering the NBA? No College experience?
I could take a quick peek at that...
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With regard to them paying the tax... its not just about money. Its about flexibility as well. there are limitations on taxpayers and limitations on repeaters. So, let me rephrase... they don't have to do it, but there are many reasons why they should. We aren't talking pennies here... it is literally like $50M dollars. You aren't getting $50M in value out of him and super rich people are not stupid.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If WCS is still on the board and we don't pick him we've gone full spazz. We could flip him to Boston and get one of their BKN picks and the 15... or just keep him and no one ever scores a basket on us... ever.
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Yep. He can either play in a deadly soul crushing three man big rotation with Favors and Gobert or you just got yourself a major trade piece many teams would covet.

You win either way.

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Ellis269 said:
Antetokounmpo >>>>> Burke

I always want the best players possible and then have the coaching staff improve their skills and figure out how to utilize those skill sets together. I think he has All Star level talent, and thus would gladly have him on this team if possible. I'd also hire Chip Engelland and hope to have a Spurs level improvement in team shooting. Between that and filling the bench with shooters, there's always a way to figure out how to make talent work.
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Yep, I'd throw so much money at Chip that he'd be embarrassed to say no.

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zyzz said:
Did Alpha Kaba withdraw from the draft? I saw there were rumors about it and he's not on the Draftexpress mock draft anymore.
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Sorry if this has already been explained but DX moved him to 2016 but he did not drop out of the draft.......yet.......

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TRADE!!!

I still think Milwaukee is trying to squeeze into the top 12 to get Kaminsky or a concession prize of Dekker.

The Bucks just traded Ersan Illysova.

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Milwaukee has traded forward Ersan Ilyasova to Detroit for Caron Butler and Shawne Williams, league sources tell Yahoo.
 
mellow said:
TRADE!!!

I still think Milwaukee is trying to squeeze into the top 12 to get Kaminsky or a concession prize of Dekker.

The Bucks just traded Ersan Illysova.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Milwaukee has traded forward Ersan Ilyasova to Detroit for Caron Butler and Shawne Williams, league sources tell Yahoo.
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And, just like that, the balance of power in the East has shifted. . .
 
framer said:
And, just like that, the balance of power in the East has shifted. . .
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True, not big news, but does give some indication of what Detroit might do in the draft. Prolly looking 2 guard or small forward. Mario if he is there or Booker Oubre or Johnson. Doubt they go Frank or Porz (sounds like there is no way he's there).
 
mellow said:
TRADE!!!

I still think Milwaukee is trying to squeeze into the top 12 to get Kaminsky or a concession prize of Dekker.

The Bucks just traded Ersan Illysova.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Milwaukee has traded forward Ersan Ilyasova to Detroit for Caron Butler and Shawne Williams, league sources tell Yahoo.
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That's a weird one. I guess that would mean Detroit would be more willing to trade down if Porzingis is the one of the top 8 left at #8. Or they can pick him an ease him in slowly and play him as a sub to Ilyasova.

It also makes it less likely that Johnson will slip to 12, because Detroit have a severe need at SF.
 
Good trade for both

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For Bucks, this is chance to shed salary, bringing in contracts that could be waived. Milwaukee could have $22M in cap space.

Looks like Detroit is definitely taking a wing in the draft. I think their only SFs are Cartier Martin and Tayshaun Prince lol
 
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I'd pay to see the third one...
 
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