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I'd pick Johnson if both him and Turner are available, but I love Turner's potential. The gap has been getting smaller between those two in my big board... I don't know if my mind would change by draft night.
 
I'd pick Johnson if both him and Turner are available, but I love Turner's potential. The gap has been getting smaller between those two in my big board... I don't know if my mind would change by draft night.

Someone please convince me that Stanley Johnson will be better than TJ Warren and Jared Dudley. I'm actually not 100% convinced he has as much motor as those guys.

I'll go watch me some SJ highlights and try to get psyched.
 
I'd take Stanley Johnson and laugh all the way to the bank. In the hands of a skilled player developmental coaching staff he will turn out to be a strait up stud. Physically he has an NBA ready body, and his skill set reminds me a lot of Jimmy Butler. My hope is that he can elevate his offensive game to be a true two-way player and start opposite Gordon Hayward. As highly as I think of Burks and Hood, that would be a fantastic outcome.

I really really wish he were an inch or two taller, and a tad quicker and more explosive.
 
He's a better defender than both from day 1. Much better!

But the coaching staff will have to work on his offensive game for certain. His finishing around the rim was underwhelming and very surprisingly so, when you consider how strong he is and how he plays through contact.
 
I'm not as hyped about Johnson as some of you here. From what I've read he's probably a role player/solid player at best. I don't like how he didn't finish at the rim that well, while having a physical NBA body. I think a big is a lot more needed on our team and turner has a lot of potential.

We are hoping Johnson would become a 3/4 defender right?
 
I'm not as hyped about Johnson as some of you here. From what I've read he's probably a role player/solid player at best. I don't like how he didn't finish at the rim that well, while having a physical NBA body. I think a big is a lot more needed on our team and turner has a lot of potential.

We are hoping Johnson would become a 3/4 defender right?

Yeah I do think Turner has better potential but it's not guaranteed that he'll reach that potential. Johnson seems like he has a higher floor RIGHT NOW though... and you know you're gonna get a solid physical wing defender going forward.


Personality wise I think Turner is a better fit for our team. #Humble
 
I like Johnson, but I also see some risk there. Offensively, he's a 6'7" guy who benefited from being stronger and a bit quicker than college players. It may not all translate to the pros. All the exciting offensive things Johnson did, I also saw Derrick Williams do at Arizona. Now granted, Johnson may have a better work ethic and motor, but I wonder where Johnson is going to get his points other than spotting up and filling the lane.

I was psyched about the idea of Johnson playing the 4. His skills and versatility could be a real advantage at that position, but he measured an inch or two shorter than I thought he would at the combine. Then I saw Looney footage where it looked like Johnson couldn't deal with Looney's length. I don't think you can put Johnson at the 4 unless you call it small ball, basically.

He's a power-3, probably a better version of Rick Fox pre-injuries, but I'm not 100% convinced he adds a new dimension and impact to what we have.

Does he have enough shot creation, shot making, passing, rebounding to be a starter for the Jazz? It's not a given.
 
David Locke has been mentioning in is podcasts that some players may not want to work out for the Jazz. The idea is that if you're a wing, you have to compete with Hayward, Burks and Hood for minutes. If you're a big, you have to compete with Rudy, Favs and Booker. It's a tough task for a rookie to take on.

Anyone know if/when guys like Oubre, Turner, Johnson, Kaminsky and Booker are supposed to work out for the Jazz?


Edit: NVM I just saw the updates to the 2015 Workout thread...
 
I had a vision that Jazz picked Dekker at 12 and traded future first and second for RJ Hunter in mid-20s.
 
I like Johnson, but I also see some risk there. Offensively, he's a 6'7" guy who benefited from being stronger and a bit quicker than college players. It may not all translate to the pros. All the exciting offensive things Johnson did, I also saw Derrick Williams do at Arizona. Now granted, Johnson may have a better work ethic and motor, but I wonder where Johnson is going to get his points other than spotting up and filling the lane.

I was psyched about the idea of Johnson playing the 4. His skills and versatility could be a real advantage at that position, but he measured an inch or two shorter than I thought he would at the combine. Then I saw Looney footage where it looked like Johnson couldn't deal with Looney's length. I don't think you can put Johnson at the 4 unless you call it small ball, basically.

He's a power-3, probably a better version of Rick Fox pre-injuries, but I'm not 100% convinced he adds a new dimension and impact to what we have.

Does he have enough shot creation, shot making, passing, rebounding to be a starter for the Jazz? It's not a given.

This.
 
I like Johnson, but I also see some risk there. Offensively, he's a 6'7" guy who benefited from being stronger and a bit quicker than college players. It may not all translate to the pros. All the exciting offensive things Johnson did, I also saw Derrick Williams do at Arizona. Now granted, Johnson may have a better work ethic and motor, but I wonder where Johnson is going to get his points other than spotting up and filling the lane.

I was psyched about the idea of Johnson playing the 4. His skills and versatility could be a real advantage at that position, but he measured an inch or two shorter than I thought he would at the combine. Then I saw Looney footage where it looked like Johnson couldn't deal with Looney's length. I don't think you can put Johnson at the 4 unless you call it small ball, basically.

He's a power-3, probably a better version of Rick Fox pre-injuries, but I'm not 100% convinced he adds a new dimension and impact to what we have.

Does he have enough shot creation, shot making, passing, rebounding to be a starter for the Jazz? It's not a given.

He's 6'6", all the measurements are clearly available...be accurate. That's why his stock is ultimately dropping.
 
A lot of people are failing to realize the best part about Johnson's game - he's lock-down. You put him on the best 2-3 and he keeps them in check. I don't think he's Bowen or Artest good (defensively) but he's in the same realm as MKG and perhaps Tony Allen (Allen is shorter but I digress).
 
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