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Jazz to actively pursue Paul Millsap this offseason, per Spencer Checketts

Cy said:
Just because it didnt happen doesnt mean we didn't offer it.
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Right, just because he's always wrong, doesn't mean he couldn't have been always right. Now I remember why I started skipping your stupid posts.
 
I absolutely love Millsap and have been behind him for all of the years of the terrible, spoiled Jazz fan whining about him. That said, this doesn't make much sense for either side, but it Millsap wants to be 3rd big for some reason, then, well, welcome aboard.

But Favors and Gobert should be kept on the track that they are on.
 
Cy said:
What?
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What what? KD asked to see a proof that he's been right in one of his rumors. You responded that just because he's never been proven right, doesn't prove him wrong. Which is a pretty stupid thing to say. What matters is that his "rumors" don't seem to have any provable basis in reality. Unlike, say, Woj, who doesn't need to use "prove leprechauns don't exist" logic as his rumors actually often pay off.
 
Baby Sap was unable to land an NBA job for 6 years and suddenly, in Paul's contract year, we give him a 3 year contract.
The interesting part is the next two years are unguaranteed.
Perhaps DL, with a wink and a nod, promises to make them "guaranteed" if Paul comes back.
 
KD's Framily said:
The point, Cy, isn't that Checketts was wrong. It's that he has never been in the loop on any moves the Jazz actually made. His only track record to go off of are a lot of rumors that never ended up happening.

Given that, I'm not really sure how you can criticize someone for being skeptical of the latest Checketts rumor, especially when it makes virtually no sense.
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How does us being interested in Millsap make virtually no sense?

It makes a TON of sense:

1. We want more shooting, especially from a big.
2. Millsap has played here and liked it and fans like him
3. Our current coach has a very good relationship with him
4. We employ his brother on our basketball team (a move some theorized was a strategic move for Paul)
5. We have enough minutes for him (96 total front-court minutes among 3 players = 32 minutes)


The only way it doesn't make sense is when you factor in ego and money. I don't know Millsap so I can't comment on the importance he places on being a starter and getting a lot more mone.
 
Siro said:
What what? KD asked to see a proof that he's been right in one of his rumors. You responded that just because he's never been proven right, doesn't prove him wrong. Which is a pretty stupid thing to say. What matters is that his "rumors" don't seem to have any provable basis in reality. Unlike, say, Woj, who doesn't need to use "prove leprechauns don't exist" logic as his rumors actually often pay off.
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Woj gets information minutes before it hits the news-wire. You can read about his methods online. So when actual deal goes down, he will get the information a few minuets before anyone else and leak it.

Checketts is just getting information on what are essentially plans or ideas, not actual moves that happened that haven't been made public yet.

It makes sense the Jazz are interested in Millsap and would pursue him to some degree, so I see this as a valid rumor.
 
Jazz4ever said:
30-40 win team
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You trippin dog.
Jazz will win more than 40 games next year..... Especially if we have millsap coming off the bench
 
KD's Framily said:
The point, Cy, isn't that Checketts was wrong. It's that he has never been in the loop on any moves the Jazz actually made. His only track record to go off of are a lot of rumors that never ended up happening.

Given that, I'm not really sure how you can criticize someone for being skeptical of the latest Checketts rumor, especially when it makes virtually no sense.
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Exactly

I heard that the jazz were in serious talks to bring Stockton and Malone back on the roster as starters last season.

Prove me wrong
 
Cy said:
How does us being interested in Millsap make virtually no sense?

It makes a TON of sense:

1. We want more shooting, especially from a big.
2. Millsap has played here and liked it and fans like him
3. Our current coach has a very good relationship with him
4. We employ his brother on our basketball team (a move some theorized was a strategic move for Paul)
5. We have enough minutes for him (96 total front-court minutes among 3 players = 32 minutes)


The only way it doesn't make sense is when you factor in ego and money. I don't know Millsap so I can't comment on the importance he places on being a starter and getting a lot more mone.
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You can't comment on money and minutes, TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS FOR MOST PLAYERS, but you feel perfectly comfortable commenting about him wanting to play with his brother, coach Quin, and his old team! My God.
 
Also, what if the Jazz offer a Millsap a 1 year deal?

Maybe Millsap decides to take a 1 year/10 million dollar contract to set himself up for the cap explosion next year?

Jazz do it to nearly guarantee a playoff spot and bolster our young core's experience.

Millsap does it because he knows he can still get 28+ MPG and probably still put up very good stats, setting himself up for a big contract in the year the cap booms.
 
Cy said:
How does us being interested in Millsap make virtually no sense?

It makes a TON of sense:

1. We want more shooting, especially from a big.
2. Millsap has played here and liked it and fans like him
3. Our current coach has a very good relationship with him
4. We employ his brother on our basketball team (a move some theorized was a strategic move for Paul)
5. We have enough minutes for him (96 total front-court minutes among 3 players = 32 minutes)


The only way it doesn't make sense is when you factor in ego and money. I don't know Millsap so I can't comment on the importance he places on being a starter and getting a lot more mone.
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Did someone say it didn't make sense?
 
fishonjazz said:
Did someone say it didn't make sense?
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I did, but I was speaking from a contract/role stand-point. I've just never seen an all-star turn down more money and a guaranteed starting role on a 60 win team to come off the bench somewhere else.
 
Cy said:
Interesting.

I just don't see us benching Derrick Favors at this point. So would we be selling Millsap on a 6th man role?

I just don't see us being able to offer as much $$$ as other clubs and since Millsap has never really gotten a large contract, it would make sense for him to pursue the money.
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Paul would definitely have to come off the bench. But why would Millsap do that? Only motivation would be his prior relationship with Quin and the opportunity to play with his brother. Jazz could free up a max slot (release Booker and even trade their pick for a future first). Just don't see it happening though. Besides, doesn't Millsap's agent have a bad relationship with the Jazz?
 
Siro said:
You can't comment on money and minutes, TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS FOR MOST PLAYERS, but you feel perfectly comfortable commenting about him wanting to play with his brother, coach Quin, and his old team! My God.
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He has publicly stated how important Quin was to his development. I feel very comfortable saying he likes Quin.

He is a very family first person. His uncle is his agent and he trains with his brothers in the off-season. I feel comfortable saying family is very important to Paul.

He has said he liked playing for Utah and had positive things to say about the team and organization. I feel comfortable saying he liked Utah when he was here (also probably likes they are paying his brother and giving him the chance of a lifetime).

I have nothing to go one about him hating coming off teh bench or wanting a max contact over everything. So you can take your ****ty post and go somewhere else.
 
Cy said:
The post I quoted to make that post.
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He didn't say the jazz wanting millsap to come off the bench for a decent price didn't make sense.... I think almost every team would be looking into that
 
Stifle Tower said:
Paul would definitely have to come off the bench. But why would Millsap do that? Only motivation would be his prior relationship with Quin and the opportunity to play with his brother. Jazz could free up a max slot (release Booker and even trade their pick for a future first). Just don't see it happening though. Besides, doesn't Millsap's agent have a bad relationship with the Jazz?
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His agent is his uncle who I would assume is also Elijah's agent, so I would assume the relationship is pretty good.
 
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