Game6Conley
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzYOQX382RY
Dekker in a dunk contest
Dekker in a dunk contest
Following potential 2015 draftees
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Game6Conley
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sigzrKYWbFU
I was the one hyping Porzingis all year long while people were dismissing him, and now I feel like I need to hold people back because of some insane trade ideas(12+Favors for him). I'm still high on Porzingis, but you have to remember - empty gym is about the perfect environment for him to shine. I was telling that to people several months ago - he will kill the workouts, simply because the best of his attributes will be on display and the worst of his attributes will be hidden. You can't see the bad basketball IQ when you are looking at him dunking and shooting without defenders around him. You can't see him not passing a lick, you can't see him getting bullied by weak Euro SFs and PFs in the paint and not being able to get a robound even though he's 3-4 inches taller than anybody else on the floor, you can't see him losing his man several times a game off-ball in 5-on-5 Enes-style. Curb your enthusiasm, guys... Porzingis is an awesome offensive prospect, but he has some serious flaws right now. I'm not saying he can't or won't improve those with experience and with getting stronger, but lets not act like he's some sort of sure thing. I'd take Favors every time in the situation we are at right now.
Dunk contest dunks aren't in game dunks.
Maneesh
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Off the bounce weak *** dunk? Are we impressed?
Would definitely say it's above average.
The question was if Frank can be a 5. You said it didn't matter because of Gobert. If he can be a 5, then fine. If not, I wan't no part of him (I don't really like him either way, but can understand the pick better if he can play C).
A dunk contest dunk from his Freshman year.
Who cares about dunk contest dunks? Dekker is a in-game dunker who can finish with power.
By all means, we should judge players on their best dunks on Youtube...
No one is saying that, but to call Dekker an average athlete is false IMO. Average athletes can't dunk as often as Dekker does.
I think it's pretty important to see if athletes know how to use their athletic ability in-game. For someone playing in such a slow offense, Dekker gets a remarkable amount of dunks. Put him in an offense that actually has fast-breaks and he is going to be very good finishing in transition.
Oubre on the other hand is generally considered a far superior athlete, but doesn't really show it in games at all. The ball slows him down a lot and just the game of basketball in general slows him down a lot.
Game6Conley
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Jonathan Givony posted a 19.5" standing vertical last year, Sam Dekker a 25.5" standing vertical this year.
Maneesh
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Damn.... J0nathan has the hops!
I never said he was a superior athlete. Just said he uses his athleticism in games better than Oubre does.You really need to learn how to read.
Dekker has very functional in-game athleticism. I don't care if it says he jumped 'only' 35'' at the combine. He knows how to use it and uses it to full effect in in-game situations. Russell Westbrook had only 36'' vertical too. Nobody would say he's not an amazing athlete simply because he's aggressive with his athleticism and he knows how to use in games with people around him. The athleticism of most players gets slowed down with bodies around them. That's not the case with Dekker.
How many times is Dekker going to be standing flat footed and jumping while playing basketball?
That number was probably just a fluke. I really don't believe it's an accurate representation of his athletic ability. When combine numbers don't agree with the eye test, you can kind of throw them out the window.
seattlejazzfan
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Get used to Frank, jazzfanz, if he's there at 12 the jazz are picking him. Book it.