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BENTLEY said:
Boston wants to move up 5 spots to get to 11.
Jazz would only move up 1 spot to get to 11.
or
Jazz would need to move up 3 spots to get 9.


I'm just wondering what each move would cost?
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If Boston wants to move up and says it's for Turner, they probably have another move in mind. Ainge is a poker player and wouldn't reveal the target. He'd probably swing a deal involving a future pick + the trade-up pick for #4 from the Knicks.
 
ok let me give my 2 cents

first kaminsky is a douche and should just focus on winning the triple crown. my dislike of him is almost to tomic level.

second players that have never lived here (in Utah) don't know what it is like. players that have usually go away with nothing negative to say. dwill still has a home here and wants his children raised in Utah. I bet Trevor booker would say positive things about Utah.

3rd if Houston came to Utah with that offer the jazz would take it but I think Houston would want more from the jazz.

4th the jazz should never get in a bidding war with Houston the only winner would be the team who ends up with the trades.
 
Catchall said:
I think Oubre, Looney and Dekker are the most likely picks at 12.
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I think Turner and oubre are the guys that the jazz are most hoping to be there. And in that order (Of the likely guys)
 
Catchall said:
If the Jazz really care about getting their first choice of that 3rd tier--Turner, Johnson, Oubre--they should offer 12 + something to move up to 9. Those three guys could go 9, 10, 11 respectively, leaving us to pick from the Wisconsin guys, Looney and Portis, though Booker is also possible.

Thing is, 12 + a player + a future first could get the Jazz to 7 or 8.
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All those guys are in tier 4 according to Chad Ford, along with all the others we worked out. It's all open to interpretation depending on who you ask.
 
fishonjazz said:
I think Turner and oubre are the guys that the jazz are most hoping to be there. And in that order (Of the likely guys)
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If I were Charlotte, I'd take Oubre. He can shoot, plus he'll be able to get his shot off better than Booker.

Turner apparently outplayed Kaminsky in their head-to-head workout.

Johnson is rumored to be going to Miami.

Jazz could get stuck pondering Dekker vs. Looney, not that this is a bad thing. They could also take Booker.
 
Catchall said:
If the Jazz really care about getting their first choice of that 3rd tier--Turner, Johnson, Oubre--they should offer 12 + something to move up to 9. Those three guys could go 9, 10, 11 respectively, leaving us to pick from the Wisconsin guys, Looney and Portis, though Booker is also possible.

Thing is, 12 + a player + a future first could get the Jazz to 7 or 8.
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What could 12 + their 2 second round picks get? Could that get them to 9? I'm fine including a future first too.


Rumor is both Sacramento and Detroit considering trading their picks. That's 6th or 8th. ...hmm.... leapfrog only to get leapfrogged again.
 
As has been said by many, there are a lot of players to like in this draft. I didn't have any favorites. But as the date approaches I find myself pining for Turner more than anyone. Guess I have a favorite now.
 
BENTLEY said:
What could 12 + their 2 second round picks get? Could that get them to 9? I'm fine including a future first too.


Rumor is both Sacramento and Detroit considering trading their picks. That's 6th or 8th. ...hmm.... leapfrog only to get leapfrogged again.
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I'd say the Jazz are going to value the Euros more than many teams and have assets to leverage. I think the Jazz could move to 9, to 8 or even higher if they want it enough.

I'm hearing some buzz that Cousins wants the Kings to take WCS. That's interesting given that Hezonja or Mudiay could be there.
 
Jazz4ever said:
The Jazz have always traded anyone who shows any remote signs they don't like it here. Ask DWill and Enes Kanter. It makes perfectly sound sense they view a workout refusal as such a sign given his realistic draft range.
The Jazz will not draft Frank Kaminsky.
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Yet they drafted both Exum and Hood last year, who refused to work out with the Jazz and traded up for Burke the previous year who also didn't work out for the team... The team doesn't care if they want to work out for the team, if they think the player is the best one on the board they will draft him.
 
Tony Jones from the Trib said that he thought Oubre's was the most impressive workout. That's saying something given that there were 100 workouts.
 
Catchall said:
The only thing I remember was that Exum said LA would be ideal for him. He wasn't bagging on other cities.

You look at Russell, and he probably wants to go to NY or LA for marketability.
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And he has a 33% chance of going right in between them to Philly. That just sucks.
 
Beantown said:
Would you rather have Myles Turner or Kelly Olynyk and the 16th pick?
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Olynyk and the 16 easy, I think the Jazz F/O would be on board too.

I kinda think snagging Terrance Jones from the Rockets might be more feasible, only because it stands to reason they will need to choose between Jones and Montiejunas at somepoint. letting them both hit the restricted market at once seems like a good way to lose one of them before recouping any value. Morey may not give a **** though, its certainly not as risky as declining Chandler Parsons option.
 
stitches said:
Yet they drafted both Exum and Hood last year, who refused to work out with the Jazz and traded up for Burke the previous year who also didn't work out for the team... The team doesn't care if they want to work out for the team, if they think the player is the best one on the board they will draft him.
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Yep. Workouts should be a very, very small part of the evaluation process. When all else fails. . . trust the tape. Workouts and interviews can give insight into their personality and a better idea of mechanical and technical issues in their games, but not really how well they'll play for you in competitive situations. My personal opinion is that workouts should function to drop a guy on your board, but not raise his stock directly.
 
Beantown said:
Would you rather have Myles Turner or Kelly Olynyk and the 16th pick?
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I'd personally take Turner. Think he's going to be special.

Olynyk never impressed me, and I'm not a huge fan of the guys left to pick from at 16. That's not to say that some of them won't be good. . . I just hate the idea of pushing our pick down this year.
 
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