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Jazz Select Olivier Hanlan

Cy said:
Pretty much everyone here really likes Cotton.

Sorry if we are crazy for not thinking he should start over the #5 overall pick who emerged as one of the top defensive PG's in the league.
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What does being a top 5 draft pick have anything to do with it? You should want the best team on the court...
 
Gotta love his spirit. Going to bat for his boy, but he's delusional. Exum could be a generational talent if he works his *** off to get better and bring the offensive game people expected when he was drafted to go along with his phenomenal perimeter defense. Cotton might end up being better than Burke, Neto and Hanlan long term, but he's not going to start/play over Exum or Burks.
 
LG33 said:
Hello, all. Just another Boston College alum here to join the chorus singing the praises of Olivier Hanlan. I saw about half of the games he played in college, and I'm excited to continue tracking his career as a member of the Jazz (I'm a die-hard Pacers fan, but the Jazz have been my Western Conference favorite since the mid-90s). As was stated numerous times elsewhere in this thread, Hanlan was pretty much asked to do it all at BC. Our previous coach, Steve Donahue, wasn't able to recruit a lot of talent to Chestnut Hill, but Hanlan's play was a bright spot in an otherwise dreary several years on the Heights. It was clear from Day 1 that Hanlan was the best guy on the roster, and opposing defenses reacted accordingly. And on some nights it simply didn't matter. He had a lot of great games (ten threes on route to a record 41 points in his first ACC Tourney appearance), hit some clutch baskets, and was by all accounts a great guy both in the locker room and around campus. I don't know that he'll make the team given the talent the Jazz already have in the backcourt, but I think he could find a spot in the league as a offensive spark off the bench. In my opinion, he has a better feel for the game - in that he knows his strengths and weaknesses - than our last NBA prospect, Reggie Jackson, but obviously Hanlan doesn't have the same super athleticism that made Jackson such a highly-touted draft prospect back in 2011. I'll make sure to watch his debut in y'all's new summer league next month.
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Yo! Thanks for posting. Looks like you've been a Jazz fan for a while now...at least during those great years. Anwyay, thanks for the info on Hanlan. I'm hoping he's successful and turns out to be a diamond for our franchise.
 
Hanlan hasn't looked like an NBA player so far... I hope he turns it around in Vegas, otherwise he'd be playing in the D-League next year.
 
stitches said:
Hanlan hasn't looked like an NBA player so far... I hope he turns it around in Vegas, otherwise he'd be playing in the D-League next year.
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To be fair, and I mentioned it in another thread, he's playing out of position. He's only ever played point in his life and the Jazz are playing almost entirely off the ball. The transition is tough enough just going from college to the NBA, and then when you are forced to play a completely different position (and it's not like it's 2 to 3 or 4 to 5), multiply that difficulty by two. If they wanted a two, they should have drafted a two rather than a point. They are putting him firmly behind the 8 ball based on the first two games here.

For Hanlan's sake, my hope is that the Jazz don't give a rat's *** how he plays in Summer league, they are confident he can play the point and make the team as a PG, that they are just using SL to give him practice at the two knowing they may need him there during the season.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
To be fair, and I mentioned it in another thread, he's playing out of position. He's only ever played point in his life and the Jazz are playing almost entirely off the ball. The transition is tough enough just going from college to the NBA, and then when you are forced to play a completely different position (and it's not like it's 2 to 3 or 4 to 5), multiply that difficulty by two. If they wanted a two, they should have drafted a two rather than a point. They are putting him firmly behind the 8 ball based on the first two games here.

For Hanlan's sake, my hope is that the Jazz don't give a rat's *** how he plays in Summer league, they are confident he can play the point and make the team as a PG, that they are just using SL to give him practice at the two knowing they may need him there during the season.
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Agreed. Otherwise they should have thrown some picks and cash to move up for either Richaun Holmes or Pat Connaughton. If they want Hanlan as a 2, they wasted the pick.
 
GoFriars said:
What does being a top 5 draft pick have anything to do with it? You should want the best team on the court...
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Go, buddy, let's get real ... your Cotton homerism is blatant. I like him too, but as things stand now, he is just a backup. His D needs work as well as his court vision. He definitely has the speed and hops but nowhere near the strength or skill of a CP3. I prefer him over Burke, but temper your enthusiasm, and hope he simply manages to beat out the competition as a backup to Dante.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
To be fair, and I mentioned it in another thread, he's playing out of position. He's only ever played point in his life and the Jazz are playing almost entirely off the ball. The transition is tough enough just going from college to the NBA, and then when you are forced to play a completely different position (and it's not like it's 2 to 3 or 4 to 5), multiply that difficulty by two. If they wanted a two, they should have drafted a two rather than a point. They are putting him firmly behind the 8 ball based on the first two games here.

For Hanlan's sake, my hope is that the Jazz don't give a rat's *** how he plays in Summer league, they are confident he can play the point and make the team as a PG, that they are just using SL to give him practice at the two knowing they may need him there during the season.
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You draft BPA in the 2nd round. The Jazz sold their second 2nd round pick, so that tells me they just didn't like much of what was available in the 2nd round. I think they were targeting the white from Note Dame (name escapes me right now) but he got picked a pick or 2 before.

Hanlan isn't a PG. He didn't play PG in college. He played a Kobe role in college. He won't make the team. He needs a year or two to work on his all around game before he has a chance at making the NBA.
 
JJ Obrien has looked better than Hanlan.

Cunningham seems similar to Hanlan, but is clearly much quicker and more athletic.
 
Cy said:
You draft BPA in the 2nd round. The Jazz sold their second 2nd round pick, so that tells me they just didn't like much of what was available in the 2nd round. I think they were targeting the white from Note Dame (name escapes me right now) but he got picked a pick or 2 before.

Hanlan isn't a PG. He didn't play PG in college. He played a Kobe role in college. He won't make the team. He needs a year or two to work on his all around game before he has a chance at making the NBA.
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Hanlan said he's played point his entire life. He might know a bit better than you, as crazy as that might sound. But call it what you will - he's played on the ball his entire college career and now the Jazz have him playing off the ball. I agree that he won't make the team. That was kind of the point of my post.
 
Cy said:
JJ Obrien has looked better than Hanlan.

Cunningham seems similar to Hanlan, but is clearly much quicker and more athletic.
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JJ O'Brien and Cunningham are both playing their natural positions much of the time. Again, sorta the point I'm making. Try to keep up, please.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
JJ O'Brien and Cunningham are both playing their natural positions much of the time. Again, sorta the point I'm making. Try to keep up, please.
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Hanlan sucks. Again, teh point I'm making. Try to keep up, please.

It's not like the Jazz have never given Hanlan the ball to make a play. He just can't. He has been put in "pg situations" and he hasnt delivered. It's not like he NEVER played off teh ball in the college.
 
Cy said:
Hanlan sucks. Again, teh point I'm making. Try to keep up, please.

It's not like the Jazz have never given Hanlan the ball to make a play. He just can't. He has been put in "pg situations" and he hasnt delivered. It's not like he NEVER played off teh ball in the college.
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He sucks? Now you know more than DL. DL, according to you thought he was the BPA. Fortunately, Quin and DL are smart enough to give it more than two SL games before they make that determination.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
He sucks? Now you know more than DL. DL, according to you thought he was the BPA. Fortunately, Quin and DL are smart enough to give it more than two SL games before they make that determination.
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They thought he was BPA in a weak 2nd round. It was worth a shot. He will get a few more SL games. Hopefully he does better.
 
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