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Rubio absolutely blows overall IMO though. If I'm the Wolves, I package him and Shabazz for Schröder.
 
dalamon said:
Not a fan of Favs at the 5, and to say that Kevin Martin is a pylon on D would be disrespectful to the pylon.
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Kevin Martin doesn't need to be a stalwart on defense when I have Favors and Davis down low. Plus he's there because he's money from outside. So I can give spacing to Favors and Davis.

Favors is just fine at the 5. Those two positions would be interchangeable on my team.

Both Favors and Davis are two way players. That's why I picked him there. My other choice at the time would have been Deandre Jordan. No thanks. I'd rather play Favors at the 5, and get good free throw shooting and offense. Favors can stretch it out a little too.

I think both Favor and Davis shoot 3's this year, and shoot it well.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Rubio absolutely blows overall IMO though. If I'm the Wolves, I package him and Shabazz for Schröder.
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I like Schroder too, but that's not a deal they should make.

Shabazz has turned out to be a pretty good player. He's not the Bust people though he might be.

Also, I think Lavine could end up being their future point guard. He's definitely going to be a starter, and really good. Whether or not he's at the 2 or the 1 is to be determined. I'd play him at the 1.

So there is a good chance Schroder isn't needed.
 
Shabazz is a scorer and that's about it. Mediocre at best defender, inept passer.

To me the lineup below could be really, really good on both sides of the ball. That is if they got rid of Flip who's been a joke for 20 years now.

Schröder
Lavine
Wiggins
Whoever--Thon Maker would be scary
Towns
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Shabazz is a scorer and that's about it. Mediocre at best defender, inept passer.

To me the lineup below could be really, really good on both sides of the ball. That is if they got rid of Flip who's been a joke for 20 years now.

Schröder
Lavine
Wiggins
Whoever--Thon Maker would be scary
Towns
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They also just drafted Tyus Jones who could be pretty decent.

I wouldn't make that deal. Shabazz showed a lot of promise last year.

I was one of the ones who said he'd bust too. I did a 180 after watching him play.

You are right that he isn't a great passer right now, but maybe he will be. He certainly can score the ball, and do it efficiently.

I'd see what he has before bailing on him so soon.

I'd certainly rather have him and Dieng over Burke. What a terrible trade that turned out to be for us.
 
Little confused as to how we can predict how most rookies will do next year as there is nothing in the past to look at. Me personally, I've never seen guys like super Mario play. All I know is he's supposedly a good shooter and athlete. Now he probably will be considered as not important to hacks team which I like a lot. I even considered KAT but chose not to due to too much unknown, and truth be told I don't know much about him as far as playing style. Should be interesting.
 
White Chocolate said:
Andrew Wiggins shooting 31% from three isn't scary at all either.
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Yeah, but do you really expect that number not to improve next year? Be honest. Wiggins is a beast and has good shot form, the number will improve. The argument of Log not having a lot of 3 point shooting is a spacing argument. No one is just going to ignore Wiggins on the perimeter next year.
 
Hack said:
They also just drafted Tyus Jones who could be pretty decent.

I wouldn't make that deal. Shabazz showed a lot of promise last year.

I was one of the ones who said he'd bust too. I did a 180 after watching him play.

You are right that he isn't a great passer right now, but maybe he will be. He certainly can score the ball, and do it efficiently.

I'd see what he has before bailing on him so soon.

I'd certainly rather have him and Dieng over Burke. What a terrible trade that turned out to be for us.
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Shabazz is good, but he really is one of the worst/least willing passers in the NBA. SO yeah, he should get better in that department, but it's literally improving from the lowest possible point.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Little confused as to how we can predict how most rookies will do next year as there is nothing in the past to look at. Me personally, I've never seen guys like super Mario play. All I know is he's supposedly a good shooter and athlete. Now he probably will be considered as not important to hacks team which I like a lot. I even considered KAT but chose not to due to too much unknown, and truth be told I don't know much about him as far as playing style. Should be interesting.
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Yeah, IDK why I even picked KAT, but I like him. I think he can clearly protect the rim at a NBA level and hit jump shots in the NBA. As far as projecting him, idk. I feel like he would be a plus contributor at a bench level for a playoff team by the end of the year.
 
Cy said:
So you think we aren't making the playoffs?
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Doesn't really matter what I think (I think we will fight for 7th or 8th and win about 46-48 games)

Until we make the playoffs we are considered a lottery team. (Especially since we didn't pick up any big time free agents or make any big trades)
 
Cy said:
Yeah, but do you really expect that number not to improve next year? Be honest. Wiggins is a beast and has good shot form, the number will improve. The argument of Log not having a lot of 3 point shooting is a spacing argument. No one is just going to ignore Wiggins on the perimeter next year.
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It will improve for sure, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking he's a good three-point shooter. The fact of the matter is when you look at his team do you see anyone and say "Damn, can't give that guy any space or else he will drain threes"? No you don't.

I actually offered him Klay Thompson + extra pieces in a deal for Blake Griffin. He said it wouldn't improve him team at all. It actually would because he can play Big Al and Dwight together plus I was giving him another big back in the deal.
 
Cy said:
Yeah, but do you really expect that number not to improve next year? Be honest. Wiggins is a beast and has good shot form, the number will improve. The argument of Log not having a lot of 3 point shooting is a spacing argument. No one is just going to ignore Wiggins on the perimeter next year.
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Probably could've said the same thing a year ago about Burke.
 
White Chocolate said:
It will improve for sure, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking he's a good three-point shooter. The fact of the matter is when you look at his team do you see anyone and say "Damn, can't give that guy any space or else he will drain threes"? No you don't.

I actually offered him Klay Thompson + extra pieces in a deal for Blake Griffin. He said it wouldn't improve him team at all. It actually would because he can play Big Al and Dwight together plus I was giving him another big back in the deal.
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No, but I don't think you can just ignore any of his starters either. I don't think spacing is a major problem with his team.
 
Cy said:
LOL at everyone here who thinks Rodney Hood isn't a starting caliber play next year.

Dude shots 46% and 42% from the field and 3 point land respectively after the All-Star break when he finally got healthy.

In the last month of the season, where Hayward was sitting games, Hood assumed more playmaking responsibility and had a stat line of 16.7 ppg with 3.4 rebounds and 3.4 assist.
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Someone once told me that 3 assists shows that lack of court vision doe
 
Cy said:
No, but I don't think you can just ignore any of his starters either. I don't think spacing is a major problem with his team.
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Just don't really see a ton of scoring from his team especially in this competition.
 
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