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SUCCES! the left winning at banning guns!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Jones said:
It's called a starting point or speaking point. One shouldn't always spew their beliefs in an instant if they are truly engaged in meaningful conversation.

I asked the question because pro-gun posters are being heckled with labels such as paranoid and afraid of their neighbors.

Having a military is admitting the same, imo, albeit on a much larger scale.

Let me get on a personal level, Jake. I never owned a gun, ever, until about the time I had my third child. My wife was jogging on our street and a guy pulled up and grabbed her trying to force her into his vehicle. Luckily, my wife is kind of a badass so it didn't work. Not more than 3 months later we had someone break our backdoor while we were asleep and entered our home. Thankfully, he had broken into several homes that night and police were on his trail. Almost the same time he entered police came right behind him. He had held another family that night at gunpoint.

I decided to buy protection as a DUTY to my family. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I would expect most reasonable people to appreciate my right to do so.
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I picture you, a drink in one hand, gun in another, shooting it over and over into the sky, hysterically yee-hawing.
 
Dr. Jones said:
It's called a starting point or speaking point. One shouldn't always spew their beliefs in an instant if they are truly engaged in meaningful conversation.

I asked the question because pro-gun posters are being heckled with labels such as paranoid and afraid of their neighbors.

Having a military is admitting the same, imo, albeit on a much larger scale.

Let me get on a personal level, Jake. I never owned a gun, ever, until about the time I had my third child. My wife was jogging on our street and a guy pulled up and grabbed her trying to force her into his vehicle. Luckily, my wife is kind of a badass so it didn't work. Not more than 3 months later we had someone break our backdoor while we were asleep and entered our home. Thankfully, he had broken into several homes that night and police were on his trail. Almost the same time he entered police came right behind him. He had held another family that night at gunpoint.

I decided to buy protection as a DUTY to my family. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I would expect most reasonable people to appreciate my right to do so.
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Fair enough but with all due respect (you know I love ya) your comparison sucks.

The reward for a criminal breaking into a home of someone without a gun is minimal (a tv, computer).
The risk for the criminal breaking into a home of someone without a gun is large. (Go to prison, be hit with a baseball ball, attacked by a dog)

The reward for a country invading the usa with no military presence is a whole country and all its resources.
The risk is nothing really.

Huge difference.

Military need guns as part of their job/function/existence.
A civilian homeowner does not.
 
Dr. Jones said:
It's called a starting point or speaking point. One shouldn't always spew their beliefs in an instant if they are truly engaged in meaningful conversation.

I asked the question because pro-gun posters are being heckled with labels such as paranoid and afraid of their neighbors.

Having a military is admitting the same, imo, albeit on a much larger scale.

Let me get on a personal level, Jake. I never owned a gun, ever, until about the time I had my third child. My wife was jogging on our street and a guy pulled up and grabbed her trying to force her into his vehicle. Luckily, my wife is kind of a badass so it didn't work. Not more than 3 months later we had someone break our backdoor while we were asleep and entered our home. Thankfully, he had broken into several homes that night and police were on his trail. Almost the same time he entered police came right behind him. He had held another family that night at gunpoint.

I decided to buy protection as a DUTY to my family. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I would expect most reasonable people to appreciate my right to do so.
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Let me add;

I hold my two year old little boy, my five year old little princess.. and my others, and I think to myself, I don't give two ****s what the gun laws are. I will protect them against anyone that wants to hurt them. I will not subscribe that a controversial law is more important than either my love for them or my sense of responsibility to them.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Let me add;

I hold my two year old little boy, my five year old little princess.. and my others, and I think to myself, I don't give two ****s what the gun laws are. I will protect them against anyone that wants to hurt them. I will not subscribe that a controversial law is more important than either my love for them or my sense of responsibility to them.
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But what if something happens to your little ones BECAUSE you have guns?
 
fishonjazz said:
Fair enough but with all due respect (you know I love ya) your comparison sucks.

The reward for a criminal breaking into a home of someone without a gun is minimal (a tv, computer).
The risk for the criminal breaking into a home of someone without a gun is large. (Go to prison, very hit with a baseball ball, attacked by a dog)

The reward for a country invading the usa with no military presence is a whole country and all its resources.
The risk is nothing really.

Huge difference.

Military need guns as part of their job/function/existence.
A civilian homeowner does not.
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Samesies on the love/respect thing.

I don't think it's any different at all. Except for scale.
My home is my country. My family is its civilians. I am troubled at how it's different.

I mean this with the utmost respect, but I think your paradigm would change if you were holding your own, innocent, precious child(ren). It changes you in ways that are incomprehensible.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Won't happen. Period.
My guns are locked in a biometric (fingerprint) safe and I never open it casually.
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So someone breaks into your house and has a gun. You also have a gun. A shootout occurs. Many shots are fired. A bullet finds you or your family.
Doesn't have to be that a child gets their hands on your gun to have your family hurt by your gun.

Maybe that same criminal breaks into your home with a gun and simply steals some **** and leaves everyone unharmed if you don't own a gun.

I find it funny that people think owning a gun magically protects them from the bad guys.
From your two experiences you shared no one was hurt (you had no gun)
 
fishonjazz said:
So someone breaks into your house and has a gun. You also have a gun. A shootout occurs. Many shots are fired. A bullet finds you or your family.
Doesn't have to be that a child gets their hands on your gun to have your family hurt by your gun.

Maybe that same criminal breaks into your home with a gun and simply steals some **** and leaves everyone unharmed if you don't own a gun.

I find it funny that people think owning a gun magically protects them from the bad guys.
From your two experiences you shared no one was hurt (you had no gun)
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I think this is a post born from someone that has allowed themself to be a victim of agenda-laden propaganda.

None of it matters though, because, as I said, I will always protect my family no matter what the in-term politician(s) deem to be the current correct way to behave.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Let me add;

I hold my two year old little boy, my five year old little princess.. and my others, and I think to myself, I don't give two ****s what the gun laws are. I will protect them against anyone that wants to hurt them. I will not subscribe that a controversial law is more important than either my love for them or my sense of responsibility to them.
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and that's cool until (god-forbid) one of our kids gets shot up in a movie-theatre or a school or a subway or ____________ because some dickhead with e mental illness was able to get a gun as easily as a pack of cigarettes.

No one is trying to take guns away because we don't think the safety of your children matters. I think that's a huge, huge misconception.

People want to restrict guns because they think leaving the protection of children via firearms solely in the hands of their parents via enabling gun access is actually more dangerous in the long run. Those in the right believe fiercely in self-sustainability. This is a farce. No one can take care of their family better than they can, via guns. The government can't protect them as well as they themselves.

Unfortunately, the statistics continue to be slanted against you.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Samesies on the love/respect thing.

I don't think it's any different at all. Except for scale.
My home is my country. My family is its civilians. I am troubled at how it's different.

I mean this with the utmost respect, but I think your paradigm would change if you were holding your own, innocent, precious child(ren). It changes you in ways that are incomprehensible.
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it's completely, wholly, and utterly different.
 
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