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Shouldn't he be a little better than he is? I know he's a rookie, but what does he even do? Most rookies who are gonna be good can at least do something. We are getting nothing out of him. I don't really understand the idea behind drafting him. Usually if you draft players who are really raw and need a lot of development they have some athletic upside, size, or something. He's missing all of it. Did we really draft a project with no upside? We could have done a lot of other things with that pick.

I know it's early, but I'm not impressed.
 
Agree.... I really think he lost us the game.

He just looks out of sorts, we need to send him to the DLeague build that confidence!!!
 
He's playing scared. He seems star struck. I don't really blame him too much. Give me that talent and I'd still **** my pants every night for ~ a yearwalking out on that stage. I don't think we have seen who Lyles is yet. He's still in that omg this is the NBA phase. Once he starts just playing BBall we can see where he's at.
 
I am president Trey Lulz club. I tell you all before and everyone say he has nice balances and is stretching to three pointers. I can be dumb but I can know when I see weird jazz move and when they say he has it jazz DNA I know right then it's trouble.
 
In The Summer League he was back rimming all his shots - I thought it was just rookie nerves or being amped up after going pro. I can say now that his shot looks even worse now. He's aiming his mid range shots to the point where it every shot coming out of his hand looks flat - no chance of going it. His defense is probably worse - he looked like he was going to **** his pants on the Bosh iso's last night.

The kid really could have used another year or maybe two of college - put him in the D-League for maybe 20-30 starts and then see what you got.
 
I don't mind what I see from Lyles tbh, pretty sure he's taking the shots Quinn wants, I think its encouraging he's shooting 3's so early on - He must be making them in practice..

In 7.8 minutes per game he's 4th on the team with 1 oreb per game, that's encouraging too...


Shots just aren't falling right nowthru 8 games of situational minutes... It's not like he's in rhythm or anything, he comes in for a quick cup of tea to close out the 1st quarter, he's just getting his feet wet.


Bosh ate him up with those pump-fakes last night, he looked like a rookie - what did you expect out of that match-up though??


Bookers shot isn't falling either thats of much greater concern.. He was paid for instant returns... that's not how drafting 19 year olds works, especially not bigs..
 
I dunno man, Gordon went through the same thing his rookie year. That's the thing with guys who get drafted because they are highly skilled, it usually takes them more time to develop. Gordon didn't really click until his 5th NBA year, Nash took 4, Curry wasn't who he is until 2 years ago, Stockton didn't start til year 3. Not saying Lyles will be those guys, but we certainly didn't draft him for his physical abilities.
 
It's early.
He's always been soft.
Dude can shoot.

Give it time. I'm not overly optimistic, but it's way too soon...
 
I think it is amazing that they are giving Lyles real time this early on. We complained about not playing the youth, now we want to send the youth to the D-League? Play Trey Lyles, just don't start him. That means Gobert can't get hurt.
 
I don't mind what I see from Lyles tbh, pretty sure he's taking the shots Quinn wants, I think its encouraging he's shooting 3's so early on - He must be making them in practice..

In 7.8 minutes per game he's 4th on the team with 1 oreb per game, that's encouraging too...


Shots just aren't falling right nowthru 8 games of situational minutes... It's not like he's in rhythm or anything, he comes in for a quick cup of tea to close out the 1st quarter, he's just getting his feet wet.


Bosh ate him up with those pump-fakes last night, he looked like a rookie - what did you expect out of that match-up though??


Bookers shot isn't falling either thats of much greater concern.. He was paid for instant returns... that's not how drafting 19 year olds works, especially not bigs..

Good news here is that you say so. Whew.
 
Good news here is that you say so. Whew.

Trey's play isn't nearly as concerning to me as Booker's. Which doesn't seem to be a major concern here on Jazzfanz.. I don't get that logic at-all.. Gotta remember plenty of blow-hards in the 2015 draftee's thread spent plenty of time ragging on Trey, and still want to be right about it.

If Booker gives us one good year and one not so good year, That'd mean Lindsey could've gotten more bang for the buck --- I repped the signing when it happened. thing is I always liked AMinu better, and Aminu would be perfect here in Utah. He could've been the back-up PF easily, and provided a different look vs perimeter players going off..

From July 2014 (in a post about what to do after the Hayward saga)
Of the available FA's id look at taking fliers on; (in no order)

Trevor Ariza, Al Farouq Aminu, Michael Beasley, Alan Anderson, Anthony Morrow, Kent Bazemore, James Anderson, Francisco Garcia, Jerryd Bayless, Brian Roberts, Shelvin Mack(R), Ed Davis, Andray Blatche, Jordan Hill, Mike Scott, Trevor Booker, Ekpe Udoh, Jeremy Tyler and of course, Ante Tomic.




If Lyles was buried on the bench there'd be nothing to complain about.. OP is really on some "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to" type ****..
 
Way, way too early. And "he lost us the game"? Come on...

Yes he did, this was a close game. All the other games he played spot minutes and it's effects were minimal. But last night he got some real burn and Bosh just destroyed him.
 
I'm gonna keep bringing up Aminu too. Y'all laughed at me when I said he could do the things the Aaron Gordon supporters were hoping for..
 
I'm gonna keep bringing up Aminu too. Y'all laughed at me when I said he could do the things the Aaron Gordon supporters were hoping for..

Maybe 3 people did. I (along with others) said good things about him, just like we voiced our agreement in wanting Harkless (who hasn't looked like much).
 
Maybe 3 people did. I (along with others) said good things about him, just like we voiced our agreement in wanting Harkless (who hasn't looked like much).
Just wanna say it's totally unfair, at this point, to compare Booker to Aminu. It's a loaded, lopsided, unrealistic argument.

It is fair however to say Aminu was there for the taking, and considerably undervalued. He was actually a FA the last 3 summers.. Kinda been here saying it each and every summer.. surely I wasn't the only one.. there was a pretty obvious argument to be made for his skill-set.. his 'potential' was still in question though(by some), despite being 23..

I even said give him mid-level money for 4 years when he clearly wasn't going to get paid like that.. I'd like to think Aminu was one of my better calls here.

Aminu and Aar Gordon are kinda redundant though, and there's some here who would have led you to believe, it was unfortunate that the Magic took Gordon, and let Exum fall.. That's crazy, this defense is going to be the best in the league for a long time with Exum at the helm.

Other GM's are spotting good low-cost options, Tyler Johnson was a driving force behind the loss last night. It's just one of those woulda, coulda, shoulda scenarios that goes unsaid, I really only like talking about that typa **** when it relates to sports.


Any Aaron Gordon v Aminu argument is also totally unfair at this point too. But to say Aminu couldn't have provided the things the Aar-Gordon brigade had hoped for, would be candidly false.


Who knows if that double-double for Harkless vs the Jazz the other night was a sign of things to come, they got him for a 2nd round pick though, that was a total steal. I like his chances he's bouncy and shows some good instincts defensively, nearly 6'9". he's shooting it well so far this season from 3 and is still just 22. I'm a ruthless *******, I look at restricted contracts like that and think "can he be locked in for years for way under his pay grade??"
 
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