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The Jazz drafting philosophy sucks

Hotdog

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Its really at the heart of the problems for the Jazz, and the reason why there are no championship banners in the ESA.


The common theme the Jazz seem to use for drafting, is just try to bring in "good guys". It seems like they are willing to pass up potential for safe picks too.

This gets so old and frustrating. At what point do they say to themselves, we actually want to win, and we are gonna take some chances?

Trey Lyles is a perfect example of this. He's got all the makings of a good role player, and zero star potential. You are kidding yours if you think otherwise. So the question is, what is the point of that? Why spend a bunch of time developing a guy that you could replicate pretty easily in a trade or free agency?

I know it's hard to land a star at the 14th pick, but you still have to take swings and try. There were a bunch of players picked after Lyles that have higher upside than him.

It's not just Lyles though, this has been going on a lot. Rudy is the only draft pick in a while that they took a swing on, and that was lucky as hell that they got Denver to trade that pick for so cheap. Rudy was passed on basically twice by the Jazz when they traded for stupid Trey Burke.


It's either their philosophy sucks, or they just plain suck at picking players. Either way, it's broke. They are always going to be a step behind if they keep drafting like this.

Just saying.
 
Yeah I tend to agree... Oubre clearly was the guy who had 'star potential' albeit a bit raw still, but he doesn't fit the 'good guy' mould so yeah I guess we had to pass up on him.


I don't think Paul George fits the 'good guy' mould either whereas Hayward fits that mould to the T.... I mean Hayward's been good for us but obviously PG13 is the guy with more potential.
 
So, their philosophy is to draft stiffs, right? In particular white stiffs, right? I am just checking to make sure I follow.

Because as I have seen it, since DL took over the philosophy has been to favor high character guys, length, and youth. Those three characteristics are highly valued in the draft process. Sounds more like a philosophy to me than low ceiling.

See exum: long, super young for his class, high character player

Hood: long, young, high character (who is playing better than most of the top 10 picks from last year's draft mind you)

Gobert: long, young, leadership qualities. Again, notice the trend?

And if you aren't convinced that is the philosophy... see trey

Lyles: long, young for his class, high character. Picked over booker who wasn't long, but was young.

So like your name suggests, you my sir, are a hack.
 
Their picks swing safe, yes, but it's also a difficult task to really say they've whiffed. Rather than naming all the names we all know, I will just leave it at that and question how anyone with intellectual honesty can cherry-pick might-a-beens in hindsight and be critical of it all.

But that's fans for ya. The FO does their job and we certainly do ours.
 
Yeah we need to get some god damned criminals in here... Eff this good guy stuff
 
PS... now virtually every team comes in and comments on our length.

PSS... the Lakers won a chip on ship and we're perennial contenders with 3 seven footers on the court. We are built more after their mold if you ask me.

PSS... the spurs don't shoot for the fences. Kawhi was about the safest pick in a draft, but no one thought he would be what he is now. The other philosophy , bright eyes, is to bring in a coach who can develop these talented, long, motivated, and young players.

PSSS... the one player we drafted that didn't fit the mold under DL? Trey Burke. Youngish... penile picks... and short armed. He has been a fan favorite here.

I see a plan, a technique, and growth. I for one am glad the days of quincy lewis, cj miles, Morris almond, curtis borchardt, luther... (need I continue?) And TY Corbin are long gone.

The clip on this bra is welded. Support! Bra out.
 
PS... now virtually every team comes in and comments on our length.

PSS... the Lakers won a chip on ship and we're perennial contenders with 3 seven footers on the court. We are built more after their mold if you ask me.

PSS... the spurs don't shoot for the fences. Kawhi was about the safest pick in a draft, but no one thought he would be what he is now. The other philosophy , bright eyes, is to bring in a coach who can develop these talented, long, motivated, and young players.

PSSS... the one player we drafted that didn't fit the mold under DL? Trey Burke. Youngish... penile picks... and short armed. He has been a fan favorite here.

I see a plan, a technique, and growth. I for one am glad the days of quincy lewis, cj miles, Morris almond, curtis borchardt, luther... (need I continue?) And TY Corbin are long gone.

The clip on this bra is welded. Support! Bra out.

Not sure about a welded bra... unless they're made for grandma boobies..
 
I know that was said in jest, but I couldn't help at laugh at your location while reading it.

I'm a transplant and not actually in Sac, but yeah... It is ironic.
 
So were you a Kings fan when you did live there?

From Utah moved to suburbs near Sacramento after college... Hate the kings and live to mess with the locals.
 
From Utah moved to suburbs near Sacramento after college... Hate the kings and live to mess with the locals.

Gotcha. My favorite player in the NBA is Cousins. Just sayin.
I was the developer of a couple of the Tahoe ski resorts so I spent a little time in sacit.
 
Gotcha. My favorite player in the NBA is Cousins. Just sayin.
I was the developer of a couple of the Tahoe ski resorts so I spent a little time in sacit.

I feel for you.. must be frustrating. I'm not really a fan but even then it's frustrating for me watching him with so much talent and yet singlehandedly lose games because he can't keep that emotion of his in check.
 
I think clean cut players, with no colored shoes (all black and grey), and no head bands is classy. I dont care about titles. I want a sharp clean respectful team out there.
One grandma can be proud of.
 
So kirk snyder was a "good guy"?

And enes kanter was a "safe pick" rather than a pick based on potential?


Ya I wish we had more enes kanters and kirk snyders on this team
 
So kirk snyder was a "good guy"?

And enes kanter was a "safe pick" rather than a pick based on potential?


Ya I wish we had more enes kanters and kirk snyders on this team

What about deshawn stevenson :)


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So kirk snyder was a "good guy"?

And enes kanter was a "safe pick" rather than a pick based on potential?


Ya I wish we had more enes kanters and kirk snyders on this team

Good point. It's like all the picks that haven't worked out are the risky ones.

This thread is ridiculous. Show me 10 teams with better overall drafts considering position than the Jazz since 2011.
 
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