DL made it clear in an interview after the draft that Ty pushed hard for Burke. He wouldn't need to say that if the pick was entirely his.
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DL made it clear in an interview after the draft that Ty pushed hard for Burke. He wouldn't need to say that if the pick was entirely his.
FLEXIBILITY FOR WHAT?
Furthermore, Burks' deal in two years is going to be close to expiring, and close to the MLE. Burks isn't a problem, nor is his salary. He's worth more than one of the last three picks of some draft, especially to a team that should be trying to be actually good instead of perpetually flipping good, known quantities into this endless void of "flexibility".
Stifle Tower
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I call BS. The buck stops at the GM's desk. He makes the final call; if he takes credit for Hood, he can't pass off a terrible mistake on a coach, It's laughable to assume Corbin as a new coach had Sloan-like power to demand a certain player. Also, DL pigeon-holed himself into HAVING to take a PG instead of BPA by not resolving the PG situation the season before. He had the worst backup PG's in the league and knew Mo wasn't coming back. Instead of having a starter, vet and a developing PG, he had a SG in a PG's body (Mo) and two "gummers" who should have been in assisted-living facilities,
I think we give him WAY too much credit for being a draft "guru." Yes, I give him and his staff kudos for Gobert. Can't remember the int'l guy they hired, but I do remember he was the one who used to put together the World team for the Hoop Summit, He was the one who "found" Gobert and it was a very smart hire, Hood was a "no-brainer" pick as the highest rated player on the board. During the draft, his name kept popping up as he slid. 99% of us would have made the pick, But what hidden "gems" has DL found? With his 90 workouts per summer has he uncovered a Paul Millsap or a Wesley Matthews with one of those late picks?
2013 - Traded up for Neto. 3rd-string PG on almost any other team. OK, at least he made a roster.
2014 - Draft pick traded for a future, WORSE pick (Jokic or Clarkson would have been nice!)
2015 - Hanlan drafted, other pick sold for cash. Nothing exciting here.
OK, any FA moves of note? KOC brought in Memo and Okur. DL has found us Booker, Withey, Johnson and Little Sap. WOW, I bow to his genius. Oh that's right...the slew of player development guys Utah has will turn scrubs into all-stars!
And we can't "skip steps." GS waited for Thompson and Green to develop before they made key trades for great veterans like Bogut and Iggy, SA traded their veterans to let Kawhi develop into an all-star. Oh wait...
This idea that you can have a "core" develop all together is absurd nowadays. There will ALWAYS be player movement, You can't keep everyone. Jazz MAY lose Hayward if they want to keep Gobert, Exum, Hood and Favors. So a young player then gets brought in. Then another leaves if/when it comes time to pay that young guy. Even in the Stockton/Malone days, there was movement at the SG until Hormacek arrived. Then Utah went through some C's and SF's. DL and/or the Millers and now the BofD has REFUSED to spend money, They've gotten barely to the salary floor the past two years and kept Utah 28th in payroll. That just WON'T result in a serious playoff competitor.
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Utah didn't "find" Gobert. He was a top-ten pick on the world's best and most popular free draft database for large portions of the preceding months. He should've gone in the teens. When I heard the Jazz got him at #27, I was stunned. The entire NBA fell asleep at the wheel and the Jazz pounced.
Let's say Gobert was a "sure thing" pick.... DL was still the only GM out of 29 who essentially stole the pick from DEN for a song.
Sure, but he also traded a pick that could've been Gobert and another pick that could've (and reasonably may have) been Schroeder (or Giannis), all for a guy that we're all so relieved has gone from mostly dog-**** to serviceable/mediocre.
Jaymz
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because there is raw talent, but then there is raw talent forced to fit into systems that don't compliment their style of play just because the GM like this skillset.
I don't know what went on in the war room that day. But this we know:
- DL was just recently made GM
- Ty was the coach who was hired by KOC and Greg and his job was secure
- KOC was still very much involved in the decision making even though DL was the GM in name
- DL credited Ty for the Burke pick and said Ty "pushed hard for him".
My take is DL didn't want to step on Ty and KOC's toes when making his first big decision and dealt for the pick that got us Burke primarily on Ty's recommendations.
Who did DL credit with the Gobert pick? No one. That was his pick.
LOL .. this is true, he did credit Sloan for Gobert.
Stifle Tower
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Yep, when you back yourself into having to not only draft a certain position, but draft a guy who you think can come in and start, that's a terrible strategy. There are plenty of GM's who have drafted 1-2 great or very good players and then found themselves unemployed after terrible subsequent drafts, trades or failures in free agency.
Yeah, that would have been amazing, but I think I remember Locke or one of the beat writers saying Gobert would have been the pick at 14. Which makes sense.
LMAO if you actually believe this. He picked Burke. It's his fault. By saying "Ty pushed hard for him" is just taking pressure off himself if the fails. DL is the GM. GM's have the final say in drafting.
Or he likes to setup scapegoats for his decisions.
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In the past for jazz draft picks it was always a collaboration when it came to picks. Jerry Sloan had an influence, koc/scott layden had an influence, Larry h Miller had an influence, and a few others as well.
Idk if it is still that way but there is a chance that DL liked trey a little and maybe liked someone else a little more but the coaches, owner, and other jazz management felt strongly that the jazz should pick trey burke if they could and DL went along with.
When it comes down to it DL's name gets stamped on every pick, trade, free agent pickup that occurs but that does not mean that he always goes with what he thinks is the best thing to do. There are probably times when he thinks plan A and plan B are both good plans but he favors plan A a little more than plan B yet still goes with plan B due to the influence of others involved in the decision making process.
The jazz are run like a democracy where everyone has a voice. It's not a monarchy like some other franchises
Bawse Dawg
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I know it's the smart move. Teague would be great here. But I'd still hate to lose Burks 
Of course everyone has input, but the final decision is always the GM's.
Supposedly Hornaceck pushed for Kahwi Leonard, and DL didn't take him. So it's not like DL is just sitting around waiting for the people below him in the decision making process to decide for him. He decides, then he deflects pressure off himself by saying things like "oh this Ty's guy, he pushed for him".
And I don't think he does it for only negative reasons. I think when he said "this was Ty's guy" he genuinely was trying to throw Ty a win.