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Go GET Teague

Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't believe this at all... this is by far his worst 5 game stretch this season. He had been bouncing back. I have been a trey supporter (kind of). I like what he can bring even if his shot is broke some nights.
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It is how he has played for the better part of 3 years. I don't believe that 20 games out of nearly 200 represents him better than the other 180 games. Plus he only looked decent when most of our real talent was out. Lots of dudes look good on bad teams. I won't buy into that 10%. Trade him now
 
Bawse Dawg said:
PSA:

Whenever you are talking about whether or not you want Teague, it should be a requirement to say what offer you are saying no to.

If you say "I don't want to trade for Teague." I assume you mean you don't want him in any trade. And not wanting to get Teague for Burke and a pick or two should be ban worthy.

If you say 'I don't want Teague at the cost of Burks' that is much more defensible, and reasonable. Please qualify your statements. It's important to know exactly what we are actually talking about here.

Thank you for your time.
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Thsnks for the guidance. I want Teague and would trade a yogurt tube to get him. Is that bettet?
 
fishonjazz said:
I just want to say that there is a huge difference between Burke, Burks, and hayward from a Couple years ago vs Hayward, Gobert and favors right now
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My point exactly. And there will be a lot of difference between our view of hayward favors and gobert now versus in three years.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
So the current plan is 'hope the players aren't good enough to deserve max'?

Gobert is max, no doubt about it, Same with Favors and Hayward unless something dramatic happens. That's 75% of the cap right there. Hood is improving every day. And I sure as hell hope that Exum is worth a big contract when the time comes.

I agree with the notion that we will cross that bridge when we come to it. But It'd be smart to have a contingency plan in place. Hopefully Miller is willing to pay the big bucks in order to have a chance to compete for a championship.

If we insist on staying under the cap, there is no way the team looks the same in a few years. I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

*Not calling you out. This is something I think about a lot, and I just happen to be replying to your post.
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I think we kinda agree. Although i tend to always have doubts. Was there any doubt that derrick rose was max worthy? Deron Williams?
 
silesian said:
The likelihood of all 4 being max-worthy is very low. I recall conversations a few year back about "we have to pay Burke, Burks, Hayward maxes down the road." That narrative has changed a bit.

And if we pay them the max and their market value is the max, then others will also covet them we pay them the max and have a trade chip. This is a good problem to have.
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I call BS. I NEVER remember conversations about Burke and Burks being max players. I'd like to see just one post that did.
 
Interesting twist Tibors been recalled from DL, all our guys are healthy maybe a trade being worked.. (saw it in hoopshype)
I only do this for Burke and Booker / a pick. Would prefer we kept Burks.
 
DForceAUS said:
Interesting twist Tibors been recalled from DL, all our guys are healthy maybe a trade being worked.. (saw it in hoopshype)
I only do this for Burke and Booker / a pick. Would prefer we kept Burks.
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They recalled him about two days ago. Now they just sent him back to the D league again.

Weird.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I call BS. I NEVER remember conversations about Burke and Burks being max players. I'd like to see just one post that did.
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Yep. Which I why I said comparing trey hayward and alec from years ago vs Gobert, favors, and hayward now is apples to oranges
 
fishonjazz said:
Yep. Which I why I said comparing trey hayward and alec from years ago vs Gobert, favors, and hayward now is apples to oranges
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And even if that was happening. It was a prediction. Favors Gobert and Hayward are going to be offered max deals. It's already a fact. They've earned them based on what they've done, not what they might do.

The argument falls apart quickly.
 
Kanter was a guy that was talked about for a Max as well, and he got exactly that. Hayward, Gobert and Favors are all likely to be at max levels (or very, very close). I'm not sure that either Hood or Exum will, but there's a possibility that they both could prove that out in time. I'd highly doubt that the market will be that bullish 3 years from now TBH.
 
ONE LOVE said:
If the Hawks insists on getting Burks - do you think DL pulls the trigger?
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No, I don't. I think he wants out of Burke and will use other assets (Pleiss, picks, cash) to a point to try and get it done.
 
ONE LOVE said:
If the Hawks insists on getting Burks - do you think DL pulls the trigger?
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Nope. Because I think the short-term benefit is not worth hurting the team the next few years.
Utah has two play makers on the court in Hood and Hayward. Rodney, especially. He's exceptional at creating scoring opportunities. What Jazz really need is someone capable of guarding opposing 1's, but who can just stay behind the arc and shoot 3's. Not sure who that will be, but I wouldn't trade a pretty good 6th man for 1 1/2 years of Teague, It's Burke or pass.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Nope. Because I think the short-term benefit is not worth hurting the team the next few years.
Utah has two play makers on the court in Hood and Hayward. Rodney, especially. He's exceptional at creating scoring opportunities. What Jazz really need is someone capable of guarding opposing 1's, but who can just stay behind the arc and shoot 3's. Not sure who that will be, but I wouldn't trade a pretty good 6th man for 1 1/2 years of Teague, It's Burke or pass.
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Especially when he is scoring elite for a 6th man who changes the dynamic of the game so much. He turns Utah into a completely different team when he is on the floor. By far the best player at point direct pressure on the rim D of the opposing team. Not to mention how clutch he has been.
 
Alec Burks
2015-16: $9,463,484
2016-17: $10,154,495
2017-18: $10,845,506
2018-19: $11,536,515
2019-2020: UFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQnoY5tT0Tk
 
Boner
 
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