Can the Shelvin Mack experiment please end?

[Stifle Tower]

Yeah, this is literally the 1st thing I have ever disagreed with Snyder. I think it is a job security move. The Jazz should make up their minds, is it rebuilding or is it saving the day with 500 ratio and mediocrity?


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What the heck am I talking about! This is Quin Snyder we're talking about. He is raising Mack's value to trade him for future draft picks! Of course, dumb me.

Seriously doubt his job is in jeopardy. He's doing exactly as Dennis has mandated (unlike Ty). Lindsey made the trade, Quin is using Mack how he dictates is the best fit. Obviously that means they have given up on Burke. What it DOES mean is the Jazz are trying to make the playoffs. Yes, I would have liked our PG to have been Teague or Hill. But they weren't available at the right price. You can certainly see why Lindsey probably just hung up the phone when teams wanted Hood. As critical as I have been of Lindsey, I always supported NO move at the deadline if it entailed getting rid of very good players unless a star came back in the package.

 

[jope]

You said he is clearly an up and down player. You used the word clearly.

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over his first ten games with utah he was awful.. he had an average GmSc of 5.6 (10 being the league average, thus an average over 10 games of 5.6 is awful for a starter) -- over his last three games his GmSc has been an average of 15.8 -- (though, as you say, small sample size... that said... his performance so far, coupled with his history as a 3rd string pg at best, give strong indications that he is and will be an "up and down" player)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

over his first ten games with utah he was awful.. he had an average GmSc of 5.6 (10 being the league average, thus an average over 10 games of 5.6 is awful for a starter) -- over his last three games his GmSc has been an average of 15.8 -- (though, as you say, small sample size... that said... his performance so far, coupled with his history as a 3rd string pg at best, give strong indications that he is and will be an "up and down" player)

Or being a 3rd string PG makes you inconsistent because you are getting inconsistent minutes. He was pretty consistent (or as consistent as most non-star NBA players go) in his 1 year under Quin as the 2nd string PG.

 

[The Midnight]

Who was the last Jazz PG to have reached 10 assists in a game?

 

[kiri.de.carlos]

Who was the last Jazz PG to have reached 10 assists in a game?

was it...that one guy who was a ball hog??? what was his name? Rhymes with barron filliams...OH that's right DERON WILLIAMS.

 

[The Midnight]

was it...that one guy who was a ball hog??? what was his name? Rhymes with barron filliams...OH that's right DERON WILLIAMS.

Yessurrr!!

 

[NAOS]

Who was the last Jazz PG to have reached 10 assists in a game?

was it...that one guy who was a ball hog??? what was his name? Rhymes with barron filliams...OH that's right DERON WILLIAMS.

Yessurrr!!

wrong

 

[The Midnight]

wrong

Then who?

 

[kiri.de.carlos]

wrong

Assists Per Game

1. John Stockton* 10.5
2. Deron Williams 9.1
3. Rickey Green 6.9
4. Pete Maravich* 5.6
5. Gail Goodrich* 4.5
6. Allan Bristow 4.4
7. Trey Burke 4.2
8. Jim McElroy 4.0
9. Jeff Hornacek 4.0
10. Jamaal Tinsley 3.9


Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
2005–06 Utah 80 47 28.8 .421 .416 .704 2.4 4.5 .8 .2 10.8
2006–07 Utah 80 80 36.9 .456 .322 .767 3.3 9.3 1.0 .2 16.2
2007–08 Utah 82 82 37.3 .507 .395 .803 3.0 10.5 1.1 .3 18.8
2008–09 Utah 68 68 36.8 .471 .310 .849 2.9 10.7 1.1 .3 19.4
2009–10 Utah 76 76 36.9 .469 .371 .801 4.0 10.5


3 season with over 10 a game

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm sure Burke has gotten 10 assist at least once in his career.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Assists Per Game

1. John Stockton* 10.5
2. Deron Williams 9.1
3. Rickey Green 6.9
4. Pete Maravich* 5.6
5. Gail Goodrich* 4.5
6. Allan Bristow 4.4
7. Trey Burke 4.2
8. Jim McElroy 4.0
9. Jeff Hornacek 4.0
10. Jamaal Tinsley 3.9


Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
2005–06 Utah 80 47 28.8 .421 .416 .704 2.4 4.5 .8 .2 10.8
2006–07 Utah 80 80 36.9 .456 .322 .767 3.3 9.3 1.0 .2 16.2
2007–08 Utah 82 82 37.3 .507 .395 .803 3.0 10.5 1.1 .3 18.8
2008–09 Utah 68 68 36.8 .471 .310 .849 2.9 10.7 1.1 .3 19.4
2009–10 Utah 76 76 36.9 .469 .371 .801 4.0 10.5


3 season with over 10 a game

You misread OL's question.

 

[The Midnight]

I'm sure Burke has gotten 10 assist at least once in his career.

LOL .. are you serious?

 

[NAOS]

Assists Per Game

1. John Stockton* 10.5
2. Deron Williams 9.1
3. Rickey Green 6.9
4. Pete Maravich* 5.6
5. Gail Goodrich* 4.5
6. Allan Bristow 4.4
7. Trey Burke 4.2
8. Jim McElroy 4.0
9. Jeff Hornacek 4.0
10. Jamaal Tinsley 3.9


Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
2005–06 Utah 80 47 28.8 .421 .416 .704 2.4 4.5 .8 .2 10.8
2006–07 Utah 80 80 36.9 .456 .322 .767 3.3 9.3 1.0 .2 16.2
2007–08 Utah 82 82 37.3 .507 .395 .803 3.0 10.5 1.1 .3 18.8
2008–09 Utah 68 68 36.8 .471 .310 .849 2.9 10.7 1.1 .3 19.4
2009–10 Utah 76 76 36.9 .469 .371 .801 4.0 10.5


3 season with over 10 a game

thanks for these awesome and irrelevant statistics.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

LOL .. are you serious?

Are you serous? Like I'm nearly positive he has had multiple 10 assist games. He did start for 1.5 years.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yes, Trey Burke has had 10 career games of 10 assist or more.

 

[The Midnight]

Are you serous? Like I'm nearly positive he has had multiple 10 assist games. He did start for 1.5 years.

You're right actually I just checked... LOL .. I'll be damned.


Sorry Trey... LOL

 

[NAOS]

Yes, Trey Burke has had 10 career games of 10 assist or more.

and he's not the only jazzman to have done it

 

[kiri.de.carlos]

that's true burke had 15 against golden state in 2014...I guess I thought one love meant per game average.

 

[The Midnight]

LOL .. whatever happened to Trey Burke?!?!?

 

[NAOS]

You're right actually I just checked... LOL .. I'll be damned.


Sorry Trey... LOL

are there more apologies coming?