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#bern said:
Curry is an extreme outlier. It's really just not a good example to use.

Hield's age hurts him. His lack of competition hurts him. Shoot, a guy like Kaminsky was arguable more productive (a lot of that due to age) at a position where his skills make him more of a mismatch, and he's still struggling as a rookie. Again, I like Hield, but he's a role player that could make an impact like Redick IF he continues to improve (and I believe he will). I'd like to see him go against an athletic wing though, so hopefully he plays Syracuse or UNC.
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Kaminsky and reddick? Like white on rice man
 
fishonjazz said:
Post treys shooting numbers and post hields.

Im thinking they dont stack up.
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Buddy is a senior; Trey was a sophomore. If we compare sophomore years, Trey's was better.

I'm no Hield hater; I just don't think he's going to take the league by storm or something. Comparing him to Beal is being pretty generous IMO.
 
spycam1 said:
Buddy is a senior; Trey was a sophomore. If we compare sophomore years, Trey's was better.

I'm no Hield hater; I just don't think he's going to take the league by storm or something. Comparing him to Beal is being pretty generous IMO.
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Hield is a baller, trey is a pair of balls
 
#bern said:
Actually, Burke put up about the same numbers as a sophomore Hield, with a higher usage rate. So I guess you are kinda right, they don't stack up.
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Compare their best years. Do they stack up?
 
Curry TS% was 60%. Meeks 63%. Reddick 63%. Jimmer 59%. Lillard 63%. CJ McCollum 63%. Morrison 60%. McDermott 64%. As CL pointed out, Hield is at 67%. You just don't find guards scoring 25 ppg and hitting 67% TS - seniors or otherwise.

To assume guys like Burke, if they stayed until senior year, would duplicate what Hield has done, is to ignore history.

He is having a historic season as a shooter/scorer and doing it in one of best conferences in college basketball.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Curry TS% was 60%. Meeks 63%. Reddick 63%. Jimmer 59%. Lillard 63%. CJ McCollum 63%. As CL pointed out, Hield is at 67%. You just don't find guards scoring 25 ppg and hitting 67% TS - seniors or otherwise.

To assume guys like Burke, if they stayed until senior year, would duplicate what Hield has done, is to ignore history.

He is having a historic season as a shooter/scorer and doing it in one of best conferences in college basketball.
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He's doing very impressive things. I don't think anyone is hating on the guy. Having concerns about taking him in the top 3, as some have suggested, is totally reasonable.
 
spycam1 said:
He's doing very impressive things. I don't think anyone is hating on the guy. Having concerns about taking him in the top 3, as some have suggested, is totally reasonable.
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People are indeed trying to diminish what he's done this year due to his age, etc.

If one is concerned about his NBA prospects, that's one thing, but I see folks doing more than that in this thread.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
People are indeed trying to diminish what he's done this year due to his age, etc.

If one is concerned about his NBA prospects, that's one thing, but I see folks doing more than that in this thread.
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Uhh no, you have to take age into account. No one is diminishing it, we are just not ignorant to the fact that age matters.
 
King Cy said:
Uhh no, you have to take age into account. No one is diminishing it, we are just not ignorant to the fact that age matters.
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A lot seniors have played college bball. I listed several great upperclassmen just in my post off the top of my head. None have done what Hield has done.

1 or 2 a year? Lol. Find me two in the last 20 years.

Like I said, to assume a guy like Dunn or Burke could do it if they stay til senior is to ignore reality.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
A lot seniors have played college bball. I listed several great upperclassmen just in my post off the top of my head. None have done what Hield has done.

1 or 2 a year? Lol. Find me two in the last 20 years.
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Jimmer and Adam Morrison, just two recent bust for you who put up just as good numbers. They didnt have as good of %'s but they also shouldered more of scoring load for their respective teams and had to take a higher degree of difficulty.
 
King Cy said:
Jimmer and Adam Morrison, just two recent bust for you who put up just as good numbers. They didnt have as good of %'s but they also shouldered more of scoring load for their respective teams and had to take a higher degree of difficulty.
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Degree of difficulty? Now you're grasping at straws and making things up. You can't measure degree of difficulty. Lol. Jimmer 59% and Morrison 60% in the MWC and WCC respectively. Not close to Hield 67% in the big 12.

But nice effort.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Degree of difficulty? Now you're grasping at straws and making things up. You can't measure degree of difficulty. Lol. Jimmer 59% and Morrison 60% in the MWC and WCC respectively. Not close to Hield 67% in the big 12.

But nice effort.
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Ok. If you aren't going to accept clear facts this discussion is pointless.

Also you understand by playing in a better conference he has better players on his team setting him up?
 
seattlejazzfan said:
A lot seniors have played college bball. I listed several great upperclassmen just in my post off the top of my head. None have done what Hield has done.

1 or 2 a year? Lol. Find me two in the last 20 years.

Like I said, to assume a guy like Dunn or Burke could do it if they stay til senior is to ignore reality.
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To assume guys won't improve in two years is also ignoring reality.

Hield is having a great year, but I'm not arguing his greatness in college. I quite frankly, don't care. This is about how he projects as an NBA player. Anyways, the conference argument is funny to me. The Big 12 is pretty decent, but the talent that Hield has played against at his position is pretty weak. That matters.
 
#bern said:
Why would I compare a 22 year old Hield playing against 19-20 year olds and a 20 year old Burke playin against 19-20 year olds?
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I guess it don't really matter. Seattle jazz fan already dropped the knowledge
 
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