Following 2016 potential draftees
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I stand alone on Skal Island and I will keep the fort. PKM implanted some doubt into me, but I still think the upside is way too high to pass on, especially in such a weak draft. If there is a 5% chance of him reaching his potential, I'd still take that over a bunch of mediocrity all over the lottery in this draft.
prodigy
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I hope someone picking ahead of us has the same feeling
I see more potential in Skal than I do in Maker, and I've talked myself into being okay with Maker. The other thing I'm sure you guys will love is that I think Skal should play minutes at the 3 early on, since he's not a guy who wants to bang inside and deal with contact at this stage. He can use his length to slow guys on the perimeter.
Jazz4ever
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Can anyone make a credible argument while Skal will succeed where Perry Jones failed? Same size. Same athleticism. Same freshman college stats. Skal did block more shots but with his enormous foul rate (7.6 per40) I am tempted to throw that advantage out the window. At this time in 2012 Perry Jones was mocked at #12 by DX. About the same spot Skal is right now. 20 some days later on draft night Perry Jones fell to #28. He has proved not even to be worth that, as he has busted in the NBA.
Skal is quicker and more engaged than PJ3. He's a better shot blocker and better on both the first and second jump. He doesn't try to play like he's a guard. I think PJ3 might have had a medical red flag as well.
Skal is a bit of a risk, but it could be worth taking if you can play him in a young Robert Horry-type role. If not, then take Korkmaz or Luwawu, or aim for a back-up big.
Skal is a bit of a risk, but it could be worth taking if you can play him in a young Robert Horry-type role. If not, then take Korkmaz or Luwawu, or aim for a back-up big.
RandyForRubio
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Do you even remember how good Robert Horry was? And that dude had BALLS. Big balls.
Skal has tiny balls.
Skal has tiny balls.
spycam1
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Same freshman college stats? Skal didn't average half the points or rebounds that PJ3 did. That's not hyperbole; he literally didn't average half of Jones' numbers.
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Why are we even comparing them? They are completely different players.
I take Skal's numbers with a grain of salt. He only averaged 15 mpg.
Look, I'm trying to see if the Jazz can get a starting-caliber player out of this draft. There aren't all that many options at 12. You can take Luwawu and hope he becomes something close to Andre Iguodala. You can take Korkmaz and hope he becomes something like Brent Barry or Rex Chapman. You can take Prince and hope he's a baller. Otherwise, you draft someone and hope he becomes a rotation player. Baldwin and Richardson look interesting. Jaylen Brown might slip.
Look, I'm trying to see if the Jazz can get a starting-caliber player out of this draft. There aren't all that many options at 12. You can take Luwawu and hope he becomes something close to Andre Iguodala. You can take Korkmaz and hope he becomes something like Brent Barry or Rex Chapman. You can take Prince and hope he's a baller. Otherwise, you draft someone and hope he becomes a rotation player. Baldwin and Richardson look interesting. Jaylen Brown might slip.
I saw Horry come into the league beginning with summer league at East High School. He was a super skinny 6'9" dude who liked to shoot elbow jumpers. He did have balls though.
spycam1
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Mentally weak upside players. PJ3 serves as a good example of a player that had perceived upside but never reached it. There are lots of players like this and we should learn from them: it doesn't matter how much upside a player has if they don't have the mental capacity to reach that potential.
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You mean like...
-"below average feel for the game"
-"lacks lower body strength"
-"poor defensive rebounder"
-"struggles establishing post position, gets knocked off spots"
-"lacks toughness - isn't the nasty fiery big you hope for"
-"gets knocked around a lot and doesn't fight back"
-"major boom or bust"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43nbxlfcTl0
addictionary
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The scout who listed those downsides was obviously a Jazz fan.
If you are reading this, nice assist brother.
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You can also trade up, back, or out.
I hope they trade up and take buddy or maybe even chriss.
Miggs
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As frosh, per 40:
Jones: 16.5 points, 8.5 rebounds, 1.4 assists, 1.1 blocks
Skai: 16.7 points, 8.0 rebounds, 0.8 assists, 4.2 blocks
Skai's assist, turnover and personal foul numbers are VERY worrisome. Then again, I guess one could say he still scored 16.7 points per 40 despite having Ullis and Murray (as well as other talent), two guys who always have the ball in their hands , and despite supposedly being awful. He still grabbed 8.0 rebounds per 40 despite being a complete ***** supposedly and despite playing on the perimeter (look at how Love's rebound numbers have fallen) offensively. Interesting but I'm just so done with ******* on this team.
Why not just sign Channing Frye, draft Luwawu/Korky, and maybe try to upgrade at the backup point guard spot?
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Would love to get him but he is currently looking like a better shooter than klay, steph, or korver. How much is he going to get and how much playing time will he demand? I'm thinking he will want max money and a starting position.
Dude has been killing it in these playoffs.