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George Hill coming to Utah

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Utah will love George Hill. Good defender, can shoot, he's one of the guys you watch and don't complain about, if you get me. Does mostly everything right. I'm not big on Teague at all, we will see what happens.
 
congats on your lottery pick of George Hill, LMAO a player who average what 12 and 6 last year. This move says Jazz office is fine with being a borderline playoff team for years to come. Could of gotten a player like Hill as a free agent and atleast took a gamble on a player like Thon.. Jazz I thought was one of the smartly ran teams in sports but this trade has shown me otherwise.. Jazz got worse part of this trade no matter how you slice it. A lottery pick for a 30 year old who put up 12 and 6..
 
So @green @Boris @pgab and @ncoloradojazz hate this trade? Interesting... hard to argue with that collection of brilliance and/or whoever some of their main accounts are.

gave up the number 12 pick for a 30 year old who averaged 12 and 6.. That's a bad trade no matter how you slice it. Utah has made some smart draft picks in the past and they just threw away a chance for a 12 and 6 guy. LMAO. You do realize this isn't going push Jazz into a top 6 western conference team right? Which means you are happy with just playing an extra 4 or 5 games every year since teams like GSW and OKC with Durant would be the Jazz first round opponent. Bad trade. Not that Hill is a bad player but gave up way to much for him no matter how muchhe fits into the team and culture.
 
Some people strive for chips and sonme strive to just make the playoffs. now I know which one you are.


Now that we've had a day to process this it seems like a win.

We get a solid contributor, and someone to help at the 1.
We can still add a draft pick if needed. Seems like there
are a lot of options there.

So we'll bring in Hill, Exum, Burks to our core. Plus any other picks that make the team.
We were very close to making the playoffs. This should put us over the top.
 
congats on your lottery pick of George Hill, LMAO a player who average what 12 and 6 last year. This move says Jazz office is fine with being a borderline playoff team for years to come. Could of gotten a player like Hill as a free agent and atleast took a gamble on a player like Thon.. Jazz I thought was one of the smartly ran teams in sports but this trade has shown me otherwise.. Jazz got worse part of this trade no matter how you slice it. A lottery pick for a 30 year old who put up 12 and 6..

Whos the PG of Hills caliber (especially defensively) and versatility that we could have got in FA this year? Also keep in mind we dont want him under a long term contact since we are hoping Exum will be our starter long term, so we need the financial flexibility of a 1 or 2 year contract. Thon is also projected to be a late first, so we could easily buy a pick in this draft and pick him up. This is also a weak draft. Thon is a 2nd round pick in an average draft. The 12th pick this year is equivalent to a late first most years.
 
congats on your lottery pick of George Hill, LMAO a player who average what 12 and 6 last year. This move says Jazz office is fine with being a borderline playoff team for years to come. Could of gotten a player like Hill as a free agent and atleast took a gamble on a player like Thon.. Jazz I thought was one of the smartly ran teams in sports but this trade has shown me otherwise.. Jazz got worse part of this trade no matter how you slice it. A lottery pick for a 30 year old who put up 12 and 6..

12 and 6? Try 12 and 3. The guy has not had a six asst season ever. So much for adding a facilitator. We get more of Hayward turning the ball over as much as assists.
 
Imo a big deal we are sticking to defensive identity. Looking forward to our first vet mix in with the youth. Never thought I would say that!
 
This is my first post on JazzFanz. I’ve been lurking here for years but have always hesitated to post. I am a diehard Jazz fan but don’t consider myself to be some brilliant basketball mind or sports team manager. I could probably tell you the strengths and weaknesses of the key players on most NBA teams, but I’m not any good at keeping stats and contracts on everyone in my head. I also struggle with keeping the various facets of the CBA straight. I am Diehard Casual.

For my first thread I wanted to post something that I’ve seen done on JazzFanz before. Unfortunately, I’m not yet allowed to create threads so I’ve decided to make this post here. I apologize for the length of the post.

The following are comments from the PacersDigest forum. Overall, they seemed pleased about the trade but sad to see George Hill leave. I have selected the comments that I thought were interesting and/or pertained to George Hill and the Utah Jazz. I made it 15 pages into the thread before it devolved into flame posts and a running discussion on how the trade affects Indy’s chances of signing Kevin Durant this offseason. Here’s the link to the full thread on PacersDigest:

https://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?113893-Jeff-Teague-for-George-Hill-trade-thread

PacersDigest Comments:


Turning George Hill into Jeff Teague, huh. I don't know if that moves the needle much, if at all.

GHill will be good for Utah. I like Teague for us.
I understand why this is being done....but I'm not gonna lie.....I'm sad to see GH go.
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This draft is terrible. Why would you want the 12 pick?

Well our perimeter defense went down a notch.

I hate this right now. Teague is the better player from talent wise I guess. But give me GHill over Teague all day.

Well, we now know what the value of GH is......he's worth a lottery pick in a shallow draft.

There is no point of getting Teague if you lose GHill

I think Hill's inability to be aggressive offensively was the final pin in the Pacer's coffin.

I had actually soured on Hill quite a bit this season, so I'm fine it.

I look forward to Hill having a nice year in Utah. He fits well with that team. Should be a nice contract season for him

While I like Hill I think it is safe for me to say that I felt we got as much as we could out of him and that if we were going to advance I didn't honestly believe he was going to be the one to do it.

I will miss Hill's defense on point guards who can't shoot and aren't named Jeff Teague.

I have always liked George Hill though. He's always been a solid player, and was always willing to change his role to fit the needs of the team. I wish we could have seen what he was capable of as a full time SG.

I thought Hill played very well in the Toronto series, where he defended and shot the 3 point shot at a high level. Aggressiveness always seems to be the issue with him. However, if Larry does want a more natural PG, Teague is an upgrade to Hill in that regard and their
talent level is comparable. When I first saw the trade, I thought we were going to throw in the first round pick, so I'm glad it's just a straight-up swap on our end.

I like Hill a lot too and am also sad to see him go.

GHill was one of my favorites, but I think this move is good for everyone involved...the players and the teams.

I would have loved a Hill/Teague backcourt, but unfortunately we probably don't get Teague if we keep Hill.

Hill has a record of destroying both John Wall and Kyle Lowry. We lost the superior player. And a player that would have meshed well with any future moves, playing either point or 3 and D shooting guard. This is just. Not a good day. But **** happens.

Lateral move in my opinion. I think Teague is a better player than Hill but the fit just isn't that good. Finding a point guard that can play next to Monta is tough. Poor Paul George.

I will miss GHill. But I like Teague. I view this as lateral move. Teague is quicker, but I'm not sure if he's an upgrade or a downgrade.

I love George Hill and really appreciate this defense, I mean IMO the best defensive PG in the league. But offensively he has always been maligned here because he has never been aggressive enough to carve out his role in the offense. A guy who shoots over 40% from three should have been taking more shots through out the year and that just didn't happen.

I feel like Hill and Teague are in similar rank in point guards, but have different skill sets. While I don't think George Hill was the problem, it is quite possible that Teague could be a better fit for this team.

GH disappears often like Roy Hibbert did. Larry is trying to get more consistent play. He is tired of it. I know I am.

I know I'm being petty but after the numerous back handed comments from G.Hill about Indy and its fans since he's been here I'm not shedding any tears.

I KNEW HE WAS GETTING TRADED!! But I'm so glad he can go elsewhere and hopefully be appreciated for the solid contributions he brings to the team. Shelvin Mack had a very solid 2nd half of the season for the Jazz so I can only hope and believe that Hill will go there and play at a high level. That team's defense will be great 1-5. I'll be watching a lot of Jazz games next year and will be ready to say something any time Hill has a good game
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The Jazz could be a really good team. They have needed some stability at PG for a bit and a veteran in general. George Hill is exactly that.

--I stopped at page 15 of their trade thread--
 
This is my first post on JazzFanz. I’ve been lurking here for years but have always hesitated to post. I am a diehard Jazz fan but don’t consider myself to be some brilliant basketball mind or sports team manager. I could probably tell you the strengths and weaknesses of the key players on most NBA teams, but I’m not any good at keeping stats and contracts on everyone in my head. I also struggle with keeping the various facets of the CBA straight. I am Diehard Casual.

For my first thread I wanted to post something that I’ve seen done on JazzFanz before. Unfortunately, I’m not yet allowed to create threads so I’ve decided to make this post here. I apologize for the length of the post.

The following are comments from the PacersDigest forum. Overall, they seemed pleased about the trade but sad to see George Hill leave. I have selected the comments that I thought were interesting and/or pertained to George Hill and the Utah Jazz. I made it 15 pages into the thread before it devolved into flame posts and a running discussion on how the trade affects Indy’s chances of signing Kevin Durant this offseason. Here’s the link to the full thread on PacersDigest:

https://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?113893-Jeff-Teague-for-George-Hill-trade-thread

PacersDigest Comments:


Turning George Hill into Jeff Teague, huh. I don't know if that moves the needle much, if at all.

GHill will be good for Utah. I like Teague for us.
I understand why this is being done....but I'm not gonna lie.....I'm sad to see GH go.
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This draft is terrible. Why would you want the 12 pick?

Well our perimeter defense went down a notch.

I hate this right now. Teague is the better player from talent wise I guess. But give me GHill over Teague all day.

Well, we now know what the value of GH is......he's worth a lottery pick in a shallow draft.

There is no point of getting Teague if you lose GHill

I think Hill's inability to be aggressive offensively was the final pin in the Pacer's coffin.

I had actually soured on Hill quite a bit this season, so I'm fine it.

I look forward to Hill having a nice year in Utah. He fits well with that team. Should be a nice contract season for him

While I like Hill I think it is safe for me to say that I felt we got as much as we could out of him and that if we were going to advance I didn't honestly believe he was going to be the one to do it.

I will miss Hill's defense on point guards who can't shoot and aren't named Jeff Teague.

I have always liked George Hill though. He's always been a solid player, and was always willing to change his role to fit the needs of the team. I wish we could have seen what he was capable of as a full time SG.

I thought Hill played very well in the Toronto series, where he defended and shot the 3 point shot at a high level. Aggressiveness always seems to be the issue with him. However, if Larry does want a more natural PG, Teague is an upgrade to Hill in that regard and their
talent level is comparable. When I first saw the trade, I thought we were going to throw in the first round pick, so I'm glad it's just a straight-up swap on our end.

I like Hill a lot too and am also sad to see him go.

GHill was one of my favorites, but I think this move is good for everyone involved...the players and the teams.

I would have loved a Hill/Teague backcourt, but unfortunately we probably don't get Teague if we keep Hill.

Hill has a record of destroying both John Wall and Kyle Lowry. We lost the superior player. And a player that would have meshed well with any future moves, playing either point or 3 and D shooting guard. This is just. Not a good day. But **** happens.

Lateral move in my opinion. I think Teague is a better player than Hill but the fit just isn't that good. Finding a point guard that can play next to Monta is tough. Poor Paul George.

I will miss GHill. But I like Teague. I view this as lateral move. Teague is quicker, but I'm not sure if he's an upgrade or a downgrade.

I love George Hill and really appreciate this defense, I mean IMO the best defensive PG in the league. But offensively he has always been maligned here because he has never been aggressive enough to carve out his role in the offense. A guy who shoots over 40% from three should have been taking more shots through out the year and that just didn't happen.

I feel like Hill and Teague are in similar rank in point guards, but have different skill sets. While I don't think George Hill was the problem, it is quite possible that Teague could be a better fit for this team.

GH disappears often like Roy Hibbert did. Larry is trying to get more consistent play. He is tired of it. I know I am.

I know I'm being petty but after the numerous back handed comments from G.Hill about Indy and its fans since he's been here I'm not shedding any tears.

I KNEW HE WAS GETTING TRADED!! But I'm so glad he can go elsewhere and hopefully be appreciated for the solid contributions he brings to the team. Shelvin Mack had a very solid 2nd half of the season for the Jazz so I can only hope and believe that Hill will go there and play at a high level. That team's defense will be great 1-5. I'll be watching a lot of Jazz games next year and will be ready to say something any time Hill has a good game
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The Jazz could be a really good team. They have needed some stability at PG for a bit and a veteran in general. George Hill is exactly that.

--I stopped at page 15 of their trade thread--
Great post and welcome to the forum!!


BTW what a cool name!!!


 
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