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Rodney Hood is CJ miles 2.0

Is Hood CJ 2.0

  • I couldn't agree more

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • I couldn't disagree more

    Votes: 16 32.0%
  • I can see the similarity

    Votes: 12 24.0%
  • This bish be crazy AF

    Votes: 21 42.0%

  • Total voters
    50
So you went from a pre career scouting report to a general consensus from this board. LOL

Hummmm... it seems that you are one of those guys that are simply uncapable of changing their opinions. Too bad that, even though you are in a discussion forum, you can't fully enjoy what it means to exchange ideas. Well... maybe some day you will learn it.

I wish you good luck. You'll surely need it.

Peace!
 
You're too much of a homer, bro.

Here is Hayward pre-draft scouting report, per nbadraft.net:

Strengths: The 6-9 Sophomore forward is an outstanding shooter as evidenced by his 84% free throw percentage ... He has a high, quick release on his jumper enabling him to get his shot off when he wants ... His three-point accuracy has regressed from his freshman to sophomore campaign largely due to opponents contesting a higher percentage of his outside looks ... There's no doubt that he will be able to hit the outside jumper with great accuracy at the next level when getting open looks alongside another playmaker ... At the college level he also does a very good job of getting to the free throw line via drives to the basket or by drawing contact from offensive putbacks, 30% of his points come from the charity stripe ... Hayward is more than just a shooter as he's also an excellent offensive rebounder from the SF/wing position, averaging 2.1 offensive boards per game at an 8.5% offensive rebounding percentage ... He uses his good size and underrated athleticism to his advantage on the glass as he's averaging 8.3 total rebounds per game ... Gordon's ball handling ability is also a bit underrated, while he won't blow by anyone with his quickness, he is an effective ball handler and will initiate Butler's offense from the point forward position at times ... Hayward is also an effective passer with a high basketball IQ, he often defers to teammates and is willing to make the extra pass ...

Weaknesses: The biggest knock on Hayward's game is his lack of aggression ... He shows it from time to time, but we would like to see him make a more concerted effort to dominate games when his team needs him ... He's a match up problem for many teams at the college level, but his lack of a post game has allowed opponents to guard him with smaller defenders ... While we mentioned that he's a respectable ball handler, he does not look to score very often off of the dribble ... He gets to the rim at times in college, but that is not likely to translate to the NBA ... Hayward is a decent defender using his size and athleticism to his advantage at the college level ... However, his lack of elite lateral footspeed and strength will make it difficult to match up with small forwards in the NBA ... Several scouts and knowledgable observers have mentioned that Gordon is "too nice" which points to our comment about his lack of aggression ... Other questions exist about his commitment to being a great basketball player ... He is a very smart kid, majoring in engineering ... To his credit he has other interests and will have other options outside of basketball, but he must commit himself if he wants to be an effective player at the next level ...
Josh Cochran 2/15/10​

While I admit that Hayward worked on his body and got a lot better, he still doesn't have an elite athleticism by NBA standards - compare him to Jimmy Butler, for instance. Hayward is a very good player, probably deserves to be named not only an All-Star this season but also perhaps All-NBA Third Teamer. He is, though, a great overachiever; someone who harnessed everything that his body could provide in order to become a better player. Me saying that Hayward's athleticism is not elite is not a criticism, is a realist statement that allows us to realize how far did he go.

Did you originally use the word "elite"? There's a big difference in saying someone is not athletic and not having elite athleticism. Burks is probably the only player on the Jazz with elite athleticism. You might've said that about Favors a couple / three years ago, but no longer.
 
Did you originally use the word "elite"? There's a big difference in saying someone is not athletic and not having elite athleticism. Burks is probably the only player on the Jazz with elite athleticism. You might've said that about Favors a couple / three years ago, but no longer.

That's a fair criticism, Eenie Meenie. I may have used the world "elite" loosely. Thank you. And I agree with you that "Burks is probably the only player on the Jazz with elite athleticism". What I originally said about Hayward was:

I used to think that Hood was better equipped than Hayward to make the jump from role player to go-to guy, because Hood seems to have a better shooting touch. But Hayward clearly worked so hard on his game and his body during the offseason that he was able to make that jump (although his athleticism is somewhat lacking still).​

My point was that since Hayward was not all that naturally athletic even though he worked really hard on his body there still somethink lacking in that regard. To be a go-to guy in the NBA you usually have to really quick and explosive — unless you have a really special skill-set, of course. Some guys took my statement as an unfair criticism of their beloved player, but I was actually praising him for his work-ethic, while trying to remain fair and objective.

I think most of us still remember last season's game against the Celtics in Boston. With 30 seconds remaining, the 6'8 "Captain America" Hayward tried to post-up the 6'3 Avery Bradley, who easily blocked the shot. You can see it here: https://youtu.be/TEqbc6qYb7g?t=256
 
Hummmm... it seems that you are one of those guys that are simply uncapable of changing their opinions. Too bad that, even though you are in a discussion forum, you can't fully enjoy what it means to exchange ideas. Well... maybe some day you will learn it.

I wish you good luck. You'll surely need it.

Peace!

lol,The most athletic play of the game against Milwaukee was made by Gordon Hayward. While on the court with both the greek freak and Jabari Parker, neither of them made as athletic of a play as Haywards alley oop from Ingles. I don't know what you consider athletic, but Hayward has it. As far as not changing my opinion, your the one trying to use a scouting report from almost a decade ago.

Is his athleticism elite? If not it's so damn close to being irrelevant.
Is he the most athletic guy in the league? Hell no.
Did he look like the most athletic guy on the floor against Milwaukee? yes, he does this a lot BTW.

PS. If you are expecting to change someones opinion on a message board you need to reconsider being on a message board.
 
lol,The most athletic play of the game against Milwaukee was made by Gordon Hayward. While on the court with both the greek freak and Jabari Parker, neither of them made as athletic of a play as Haywards alley oop from Ingles. I don't know what you consider athletic, but Hayward has it. As far as not changing my opinion, your the one trying to use a scouting report from almost a decade ago.

Is his athleticism elite? If not it's so damn close to being irrelevant.
Is he the most athletic guy in the league? Hell no.
Did he look like the most athletic guy on the floor against Milwaukee? yes, he does this a lot BTW.

IDK, some of those Jabari dunks were really good.
 
IDK, some of those Jabari dunks were really good.

Yes they were. I still thought catching the ball mid flight (while higher than Jabari looked like he got) and then adjusting his body to dunk like that was pretty damn athletic.

And Jabari is definitely an athlete.
 
PS. If you are expecting to change someones opinion on a message board you need to reconsider being on a message board.

Well... I remember at least a couple of occasions when Saint Cy of JFC's arguments made me change my opinion - at least partially.
 
You must have never watched CJ Miles play a game for the Jazz because

CJ MILES AND RODNEY HOOD ARE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME ****ING UNIVERSE.
 
You must have never watched CJ Miles play a game for the Jazz because

CJ MILES AND RODNEY HOOD ARE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME ****ING UNIVERSE.
Agreed, i never remember miles being hurt this often

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You must have never watched CJ Miles play a game for the Jazz because

CJ MILES AND RODNEY HOOD ARE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME ****ING UNIVERSE.

You all are right its really too tough to call.... Maybe if hood could make it more then 5 games with out an injury it would be easier to compare.... Biggest comparison that I've tried to make is the "he is only this age excuse" how long can we say hood is inconsistent "but he is only played basketball 15 years sooo" Hood is slow on D and doesn't move his feet "but he is only a child leave hood alone!"

this was the same dangerous game we played when CJ was here. I remember getting on JF and seeing the praise and the hate. And for the most part the hate was right on.

you Cant have a corner stone of your team being shaky and inconsistent. and if he is inconsistent he needs to contribute in other areas. our dear boy hood does not.
If Hayward off night, he still plays D and or gets to the bucket for layups and fouls. hood just keeps going 1-10 the rest of the night.

I love hood when he is ON, just like everyone. However, I can admit that due to my CJ love/hate relationship that its okay to be real about it. and you cant build on hood. you cant have a core guy like this. If he wants to work on his game more and become a better all around player that's great! However, Currently, the kid is a role player in the nba at BEST..
 
In CJ's defense, Hood has a much better team around him. And most importantly, Hood has consistent confidence from his coach. CJ would play 2 minutes one night 15 the next and back and forth.

I think Hood is better, but it's hard to know how good CJ would have been had he played 20+ per night once he turned 20.

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I don't think their games are that similar, but they do have some similarities. Both tall, skinny L handed shooters with a smooth shooting motion. Both very streaky with the ability to get extremely hot, which also means they are inconsistent. Both probably below average defenders.

Areas that Hood is better imo. Passing, dribbling, midrange game, getting to the rim. He is also more consistent of the 2, in that he has a higher number of good/great games than bad/horrible games compared to Miles.

Areas that Miles is better... I'm drawing a blank.

I can see the similarities, but Hood is a rich man's Miles, and I still have hope that he gets more consistent. First he has to get and stay healthy though.
 
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JGolds... you are threatening to become the next LoGrad. If you keep this up then you might be forever linked to that gross KFC Gold colonel! You put up a poll and virtually everyone disagrees with you. 23% of the board sees some similarities, but the other 74% totally disagrees with you. Leaving you as the only one who voted in the top category. The stats you have put up are not compelling and were refuted by stats that you ignored. Hood's play has already been significantly better than CJ. No one in the league would trade Hood for CJ on matching contracts.

Let this post rot or enjoy being the pub'lic shaming:

https://www.google.com/search?q=gol...ict&tbm=isch&q=gold+kfc&imgrc=aXhZc1wSVpI7iM:
 
JGolds... you are threatening to become the next LoGrad. If you keep this up then you might be forever linked to that gross KFC Gold colonel! You put up a poll and virtually everyone disagrees with you. 23% of the board sees some similarities, but the other 74% totally disagrees with you. Leaving you as the only one who voted in the top category. The stats you have put up are not compelling and were refuted by stats that you ignored. Hood's play has already been significantly better than CJ. No one in the league would trade Hood for CJ on matching contracts.

Let this post rot or enjoy being the pub'lic shaming:

https://www.google.com/search?q=gol...ict&tbm=isch&q=gold+kfc&imgrc=aXhZc1wSVpI7iM:


Lols..... Not one person has given stats of any value.... And everyone knows a Poll carry's very little statistic weight...Its all about opinions and feelings. I value all of your opinions and feelings and i would hope that could be reciprocated.

All this Thread/poll accomplished was illuminate the delusion that is ever so present in any given fan base. I appreciate all comments and feelings.. As that was all that has been provided.

***BTW you are one of my favorite posters, I want you to know that. Whenever you grace a thread with your presence there is instant gratification/validation that the thread is worthy***
 
Lols..... Not one person has given stats of any value.... And everyone knows a Poll carry's very little statistic weight...Its all about opinions and feelings. I value all of your opinions and feelings and i would hope that could be reciprocated.

All this Thread/poll accomplished was illuminate the delusion that is ever so present in any given fan base. I appreciate all comments and feelings.. As that was all that has been provided.

***BTW you are one of my favorite posters, I want you to know that. Whenever you grace a thread with your presence there is instant gratification/validation that the thread is worthy***

How sweet of you! Now let's let this thread die for a year. Feel free to revisit this in a year.
 
I stand by what I've always said about Hood:

He is a nice player. A solid starter. An amazing bench player. The Jazz should hold onto him. The Jazz probably will hold onto him, because he won't ever be too expensive, which is nice. I hope he is in Utah for a really, really long time. Hayward, Gobert and one more with a support group of Hood, Burks, Lyles is a really, really, really good team.
 
That's a fair criticism, Eenie Meenie. I may have used the world "elite" loosely. Thank you. And I agree with you that "Burks is probably the only player on the Jazz with elite athleticism". What I originally said about Hayward was:

I used to think that Hood was better equipped than Hayward to make the jump from role player to go-to guy, because Hood seems to have a better shooting touch. But Hayward clearly worked so hard on his game and his body during the offseason that he was able to make that jump (although his athleticism is somewhat lacking still).​

My point was that since Hayward was not all that naturally athletic even though he worked really hard on his body there still somethink lacking in that regard. To be a go-to guy in the NBA you usually have to really quick and explosive — unless you have a really special skill-set, of course. Some guys took my statement as an unfair criticism of their beloved player, but I was actually praising him for his work-ethic, while trying to remain fair and objective.

I think most of us still remember last season's game against the Celtics in Boston. With 30 seconds remaining, the 6'8 "Captain America" Hayward tried to post-up the 6'3 Avery Bradley, who easily blocked the shot. You can see it here: https://youtu.be/TEqbc6qYb7g?t=256

How is Burks an elite athlete then? Hayward has surpassed Burks as an athlete these days as far as I'm concerned. Unless you only judge athleticism by first-step quickness and by hangtime. He has more endurance and durability, better balance, better lateral quickness, not to mention a HUGE gap in strength.
 
How is Burks an elite athlete then? Hayward has surpassed Burks as an athlete these days as far as I'm concerned. Unless you only judge athleticism by first-step quickness and by hangtime. He has more endurance and durability, better balance, better lateral quickness, not to mention a HUGE gap in strength.
Does Burks even have a good first step? Hard to tell when he is always doing a hezzy.

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