green
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So, you are proving my point. Good players don't come here unless we overpay them. More reason to try to trade for a player like Lillard.
Thanks.
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So, you are proving my point. Good players don't come here unless we overpay them. More reason to try to trade for a player like Lillard.
Thanks.
MDAV28
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Or more reason to not hinder ALL cap flexibility and ALL lineup depth and flexibility with a point guard (the most over-saturated, least valuable position) who can't stay in front of anybody.
Pacers going nowhere fast. I actually think there's a good chance he signs up with the Lakers, reportedly his hometown.
The Lakers arguably would have more talent going forward with all their young guys PLUS another great pick this year.
The Lakers arguably would have more talent going forward with all their young guys PLUS another great pick this year.
MDAV28
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I think this is why the Pacers are assessing the market.
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green
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I bet you thought the same thing about Harden...What a overvalued position and Harden...man, he can't stay in front of anybody. Yet, there is Harden, on a team with less talent than we have, looking down on us from the standings.
Weird, right?
MDAV28
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Where's Lillard again?
green
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Last year, he took a team with less talent than the Jazz had to the playoffs. So...when has Favors, Hayward, Gobert, Hood, Burks, Exum, etc done that? It wasn't until we obtained very, very good player in Hill that we became a playoff team.
Imagine what would happen if Lillard, who is better than Hill, joined this team?
MDAV28
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He's not joining this team. You're trading this team for him. Comparing him to Harden is ridiculous as well.
Tom Pitt
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If there was any chance of this deal happening without Trading Gobert or Hayward, you are almost certainly gone have to give up Hood.
Hood, Favors, GSW 1st, Our 1st, OKC 1st too much/Enough? Of course, you'd likely have to take on 1 guy the Pacers didnt want.
green
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This is true. When Harden was traded, he wasn't a proven commodity. Lillard is. Lillard is a much smaller risk trading for than Harden was.
The new CBA just seems to scare small market teams away from signing players to super max. Short sighted change.
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green
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I'd trade anyone not named Hayward or Gobert for Butler/Lillard/George. Hill is too old and Hood is too over-rated.
MDAV28
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Much smaller deal as well. And mostly comparing them as players, not their deals. Harden is is tier 1 right now of NBA talent.
Miggs
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Would much rather have Butler. Don't want to re-team Hill and George, and Butler has a much better and longer deal.
I'd offer Hood, Favors, Exum, the OKC 1st, GS 1st, and our unprotected 1st in this draft. It's still probably not enough to get it done but that's two damn solid players and a possible big upside guy in Exum as well as three draft picks in a killer draft. I'd probably also consider throwing in a 2019 1st, slightly protected.
I'd offer Hood, Favors, Exum, the OKC 1st, GS 1st, and our unprotected 1st in this draft. It's still probably not enough to get it done but that's two damn solid players and a possible big upside guy in Exum as well as three draft picks in a killer draft. I'd probably also consider throwing in a 2019 1st, slightly protected.
Let go of that dream. Butler isnt available to anyone besides the Celtics.
As I see it now, Paul George is the only realistic star because his value is lower due to expiring contract. Everyone else is just dangling their goods to see what Ainge thinks about them.
Miggs
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Butler's contract is so effing good you have to throw the kitchen sink at the Bulls for him. This is a hell of an opportunity and I think Exum, Hood, Favors, three 1sts in this draft (the Bulls would then have four) and a 2019 1st would be really tough to pass up if you're the Bulls.
It would be easy to pass up because Boston is offering the Nets picks and their 1st round pick.
The reported hold up in that deal right now is that the Bulls are asking for Crowder and Ainge is playing hardball. The Bulls arent going to budge (as they shouldn't). Ainge will have to nut up or go home. Bulls arent going to just deal Jimmy if that doesnt work out though. They can just revisist it in the Summer, no need to rush trading him. That asset wont start depreciating until next year sometime.