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2011 draft.....

I have been trying to be excited about this draft for awhile now even though it is weak. We have high draft picks that could move up but Barnes going back to school has me really depressed, that was my last hope for some reason. There are 2 maybe three decent picks at the top and then a crap shoot of players that may or may not make it in the NBA. The 2-3 players at the top are not solid top picks either compared to most years.

This is going to be the year the Jazz win the lottery and get a top 3 player who ends up being a solid rotational player and that's it.

If Kings draft Knight and we end up picking Jimmer with our first pick I will cry. I like Jimmer but I will cry like a grown man never should.
 
https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/

I have been pushing for Alec Burks and Bismack Biyombo the past 3 weeks to my friends and family. And than Draft Express updates our picks to these 2 guys.

I would love to have both of these guys. I think Alex Burks is a poor man Brandon Roy. And Biyombo looks like a great player. Worst case he is a role player who can only average 10 points 10 rebounds and 3 blocks per game. But if that is his limit that is fine with me. And please no one compare him to other African players. Its a horrible comparison. This guy is not afraid of contact like those other players. He is very aggressive and has a relentless motor unlike past players from africa. Having Favors with a 7'4 winspan and Biyombo with a 7'7 wing span would be awesome. He has a real NBA body and his could develop. People compare him to Ben Wallace but this guy has a great touch around the basket for someone with his basketball history.

Trade Millsap for a starting wing player. Trade Bell for nothing.

Harris - 2nd round draft pick/Veteran
SG from trade - Burks
Hayward - Miles - Evans
Favors - Biyombo
Jefferson - Okur - Fesenko
 
Twin Towers said:
https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/

I have been pushing for Alec Burks and Bismack Biyombo the past 3 weeks to my friends and family. And than Draft Express updates our picks to these 2 guys.

I would love to have both of these guys. I think Alex Burks is a poor man Brandon Roy. And Biyombo looks like a great player. Worst case he is a role player who can only average 10 points 10 rebounds and 3 blocks per game. But if that is his limit that is fine with me. And please no one compare him to other African players. Its a horrible comparison. This guy is not afraid of contact like those other players. He is very aggressive and has a relentless motor unlike past players from africa. Having Favors with a 7'4 winspan and Biyombo with a 7'7 wing span would be awesome. He has a real NBA body and his could develop. People compare him to Ben Wallace but this guy has a great touch around the basket for someone with his basketball history.

Trade Millsap for a starting wing player. Trade Bell for nothing.

Harris - 2nd round draft pick/Veteran
SG from trade - Burks
Hayward - Miles - Evans
Favors - Biyombo
Jefferson - Okur - Fesenko
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This is a good draft for us. We get tougher, and add more offense.
 
Than I would draft Darius Morris from Michigan with the 2nd round pick for back up point guard. Than get a veteran PG and let them fight it out for the back up position.
 
Twin Towers said:
Harris - 2nd round draft pick/Veteran
SG from trade - Burks
Hayward - Miles - Evans
Favors - Biyombo
Jefferson - Okur - Fesenko
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Personally I think Hayward is more suited as a SG - he has the speed and height to guard a SG, but not really the physicality (not yet anyway) to guard a SF.

I'd move Hayward to SG and try to trade or draft a physical/slashing SF.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Personally I think Hayward is more suited as a SG - he has the speed and height to guard a SG, but not really the physicality (not yet anyway) to guard a SF.

I'd move Hayward to SG and try to trade or draft a physical/slashing SF.
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I don't think he has the speed to guard SG's in the league. I think he Kobe is old so he has a hard time getting around longer players but Hayward has no chance of guarding the quicker SG's.
I personally like Jared Dudley and would think it would be cool to trade Millsap for Dudley and there first round draft pick. Than Hayward and Dudley could switch off between SG and SF depending on match ups. Dudley is a great all around player but plays good defense and can hit the 3.
 
But I could be wrong. Hayward could probably do a good enough job against most SG's. My dream would be to get Biyombo and Derrick Williams.

Harris - Darius Morris (Michigan)
Hayward - Miles
Williams - Miles
Favors - Biyombo
Jefferson - Okur - Fesenko
 
Twin Towers said:
Than I would draft Darius Morris from Michigan with the 2nd round pick for back up point guard. Than get a veteran PG and let them fight it out for the back up position.
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The Jazz don't have a 2nd rounder this year. They had to give that to the Bulls to get the S & T for Big Waste of Time.

That said, I hope they acquire one. Charles Jenkins looks great to me. I also like David Lighty and Darius Morris a lot as well.
 
I dont really understand this whole 2 and 3 debate. Its not that really that big of deal. Hayward can play either position. That gives us flexibility. Pick the most capable player, it doesnt matter if he is a 6'4 SG, or a 6'8 SF.
 
To everyone high on Burks, What is he good at? From the limited stuff Ive heard about him is that he is a ball dominate ISO SG, who cant really shoot that well. Is that what we want?
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
To everyone high on Burks, What is he good at? From the limited stuff Ive heard about him is that he is a ball dominate ISO SG, who cant really shoot that well. Is that what we want?
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Unfortunately, have not seen him that much, but seems like a recent draft pick whom he might compare to is Derozan.
 
Jazz4ever said:
That did not translate well, but I'm sure the buyout if fairly reasonable, there may not be one at all past 2013.
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Thanks CousinsFan 11. It is good to know that he likes Oysters apparently. Does not really make it clear if he has a buyout now or until after 2013. 12 probably to high for him, but if we take one of the points with the first pick could be worth looking at. Probably best shooting big man in draft if he stays.
 
Burks is selfish, and doesn't play defense. I can't imagine him playing for the Jazz. So of course KOC will get him with the 8th pick. Sigh.

This offseason would be a lot less boring if the jazz still had thier 2nd round pick. I could day dream about them picking Shelvin Mack or debate Ben Hansborough vs Darrius Morris.
 
mellow said:
Burks is selfish, and doesn't play defense. I can't imagine him playing for the Jazz. So of course KOC will get him with the 8th pick. Sigh.

This offseason would be a lot less boring if the jazz still had thier 2nd round pick. I could day dream about them picking Shelvin Mack or debate Ben Hansborough vs Darrius Morris.
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Everything i have read about Burks is he is a more than capable defender. Not sure where you found out he is a horrible defender. Looked good to me.

And he is good coming off screens. He does dominate the ball but his team sucks so I don't blame him. But who knows. Brandon Roy dominated the ball also. So did Durant. You can't knock guys for dominating the ball in college. he averaged 4 assists per game. I know that doesn't tell the whole story but he can be a playmaker
 
r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
Here are Biyombo's ACB stats:

https://www.draftexpress.com/stats....ign[3]=>&val[3]=&field[4]=0&sign[4]=>&val[4]=

he ranks about 20th there. his numbers make him look legit.

there are several other notable players just above him on that list: Carroll (USU), Mirotic (another draft prospect), and our own Ante Tomic.
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Also keep in mind what makes this more impressive is that it is a pro league and most of the guys are in their 20s and 30s. As posted earlier Mirotic had his contract extended but still may have an affordable buyout. Article was not really clear on that. Mirotic can shoot the rock.
 
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