Following potential 2017 draftees...

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

In my world, I would say 'correlation' but not a 'perfect correlation.'

 

[Game6Conley]

I see what you're saying. However, there can exist a statistical correlation between two events, despite the fact that there are a significant number of exceptions. It would be like saying a taller person is 85% more likely to have a higher standing reach than a shorter person. It's not a perfect correlation (with no exceptions), but you can argue that there is still a correlation.

I think you both understand what the other is saying, you're just disagreeing on the definition of the term 'correlation.'

No the disagreement stems from that he can't demonstrate what he's talking about. Real time examples which apply to this thread and the prospects being discussed.

Thats what I'm waiting for. This ****head thinks he's got me distracted from that.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

In my world, I would say 'correlation' but not a 'perfect correlation.'

Yes, a perfect correlation is when r=1. That is hard to find in any circumstance.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

No the disagreement stems from that he can't demonstrate what he's talking about. Real time examples which apply to this thread and the prospects being discussed.

Thats what I'm waiting for. This ****head thinks he's got me distracted from that.

All I said was a correlation existed. You are the one so intent on moving the goalpost over and over. The funny thing is it just makes you look even dumber.

 

[Game6Conley]

PG_AB has so many bad takes it would take me days to compile them. He edits half of them too.


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and is that how posters are to be judged here? on their bad takes? We're all human bruh, no ones infallible.

this dude Cy wants to berrate others opinions when he's the one who's wrong. Thats what it comes down to. LOSER Keyboard warrior.

He's a 2nd rate troll at best... Hoping to poke holes in others comments, and run for highground when anyone tries to flip the script.

"Any artist can turn a garden into a desert. But can he turn a desert into a garden?"


That line bodies all of Cy's 100k posts. ****ing lame ***. My 3rd biz is about to open up 6 months before I turn 30. I could retire and travel the world. This idiot argues with me during the breaks in his dayjob.

Now I bow out gracefully JFC. Enjoy your glorified expansion franchise. Wish ya's all the luck, truly do, you're gonna need it.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

and is that how posters are to be judged here? on their bad takes? We're all human bruh, no ones infallible.

this dude Cy wants to berrate others opinions when he's the one who's wrong. Thats what it comes down to. LOSER Keyboard warrior.

This is not an opinion on anything. It's simple fact. lmao.

 

[Elizah Huge]

This is just skimming through the 2013 draft thread:

what do you think about packaging our current wing players, with draft picks. to hand pick in the top 10? IE Hayward S+T + our draft pick(s)+ other replacable assets for Vonleh or Young

Tobias Harris is from down the block... i love that kid, hes a worthy project. but i think is a bit redundant with Gordo. i prefer an Iso Defender 3
i endorsed trading millsap for ekpe udoh, tobias harris and deron lamb in the thread right after the deadline

ive already discussed my trade up targets especially Poythress and Austin. heres a scenario for Shabazz
Lets say Millsap S+T + the 2 first rounders for sake of ease, in return for the rights to draft:

I REALLY REALLY REALLY like BURKS/MUHAMMAD starting back-court Hay can play 6thman 2/3 thats the roto, you can give them all 30+ mins...
now im biased with lefties i literally put like a 5% higher bell curve for lefties, ima lefty, ive played sports. when your lefty and can start from the top corner of the right wing, and you can drive left, and if no one can stop you, without sending help.... watch out... thats why ive said repeatedly over and over Crafty Lefty like harden
i could go on i want to see what you guys think of this though, shabazz seems like a defense breaker to me, i have him #1 overall

I said trade Hayward for Dennis the menace, not "a draft pick" in my eyes hes a Starting PG, not a prospect.

i fear a wes mathews situation is inevitable if we go into next offseason with both Favors and Gordon on qualifying offers, other teams are gonna drive the price up on us, on purpose. id rather return value back to the jazz NOW in the form of a 19 year old point guard

Giannis Vs Serge Ibaka (#24 pick)... go

i think honestly this is what worries me about adetokunbo for some reason. Ibaka looked way better to me, and less of a project.

i like adetokunbo though he can really run, i will not complain about Giannis if we pick him. Al Farooq Aminu is better. Giannis is really young for this draft though, not a bad pick to stash either

Rev hes a nice fit here in utah, if we select him with the #3 pick, i say its Gordon Hayward over Paul George all over again

Otto v. Shabazz

shabazz is the #2 player on my board, behind Len. i know thats far off consensus these days, i plan to be correct though.

me thinks otto has some bust potential, i wouldent touch hiim at 3 or 8, maybe 10-12

also i believe Shabazz Muhammad will command a double team in the NBA, does anyone think that of Otto?

I literally went through just half of his posts in the 2013 draft thread. It was extremely hard to find some of these gems because he went back and edited almost 2/3 of his posts because he was ashamed of them. I had to physically go to the posts and look for replies by other members that had the original quote.


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Aminu is better than Giannis? Good lord this man is funny.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Okay, how about a unilateral de-escalation on this whole topic of correlations? It's got nowhere to go.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Okay, how about a unilateral de-escalation on this whole topic of correlations? It's got nowhere to go.

Lmao. I've been done with it. I'm just waiting for PGAB to accept how dumb he is.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Aminu is better than Giannis? Good lord this man is funny.

Don't forget that we should have traded Millsap for Ekpe Udoh, Tobias Harris and Doron Lamb and Hayward for Dennis Schroder.

Len and Shabazz were his top-2 in that draft as well.

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[Elizah Huge]

HE REALLY LOVED THE IDEA OF A BURKS/SHABAZZ BACKCOURT WITH HAYWARD AS A 6TH MAN IM CRYING!!!


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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

So Kuzma really shot the lights out in the scrimmage -- 20 pts. on 8/10 from the floor, incl. 4/5 from 3pt.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

So Kuzma really shot the lights out in the scrimmage -- 20 pts. on 8/10 from the floor, incl. 4/5 from 3pt.

A few really impressive passes too.

 

[Eminence]

So Kuzma really shot the lights out in the scrimmage -- 20 pts. on 8/10 from the floor, incl. 4/5 from 3pt.

Get that prospect garbage outta here, we're here to debate statistics definitions.

But nah really, heard Frank Jackson looked great today as well, seems like he'd be a nice get, hope he stays in.

 

[Miggs]

I'm definitely coming around to [MENTION=3213]Wes Mantooth[/MENTION] in thinking that Ojeleye would be a very nice pick. He is really a player you could see hanging with GSW. He has the speed, athleticism, and shooting to be a 4 against the Warriors.

Let me preface everything by saying he didn't measure well. 6'9.8" wingspan and 8'6" standing reach. In comparison, Alec Burks was 6'10.5" and 8'7.5". Heck, OG was 7'2.3" and 8'11.5" so light years bigger.

That said, he may be a lesser OG at around 30. Dude is chiseled and could def play the 3 but may be able to play anywhere from 2-4 (while OG is more 3-5) depending on the match-up. He has the physicality and toughness we sorely need. He shot 42.4% from three on 4.9 attempts, 78.5% from the line, 52.9% from 2, and perhaps most impressively perhaps, got to the line 6.3 attempts per game and grabbed 6.9 rebounds as a wing on a team that played at an exceptionally slow pace (348th out of 351 D1 college teams). Oh yeah, he also compiled 1.5 dimes too. Maybe (maybe?) the best comp physically would be Ron Artest (minus the crazy) for whom I can't find any measurements.

Per DX, he's inconsistent defensively but with his physcial profile and our coaching and frontline behind him, I think he could definitely improve there.

At 30 you could do a whole lot worse.

 

[Miggs]

This is just skimming through the 2013 draft thread:










I literally went through just half of his posts in the 2013 draft thread. It was extremely hard to find some of these gems because he went back and edited almost 2/3 of his posts because he was ashamed of them. I had to physically go to the posts and look for replies by other members that had the original quote.


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Repped, my man.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Ojeleye should be in play at #30, as should Wilson, Bryant, Swanigan, Adebayo and whoever slips a bit (like Leaf, Lydon, ??). There is a surplus of bigs in the late first.

I also wouldn't be shocked to see the Jazz take Cameron Oliver at #30. He's going to rise the more he works out for teams.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Let me preface everything by saying he didn't measure well. 6'9.8" wingspan and 8'6" standing reach. In comparison, Alec Burks was 6'10.5" and 8'7.5". Heck, OG was 7'2.3" and 8'11.5" so light years bigger.

That said, he may be a lesser OG at around 30. Dude is chiseled and could def play the 3 but may be able to play anywhere from 2-4 (while OG is more 3-5) depending on the match-up. He has the physicality and toughness we sorely need. He shot 42.4% from three on 4.9 attempts, 78.5% from the line, 52.9% from 2, and perhaps most impressively perhaps, got to the line 6.3 attempts per game and grabbed 6.9 rebounds as a wing on a team that played at an exceptionally slow pace (348th out of 351 D1 college teams). Oh yeah, he also compiled 1.5 dimes too. Maybe (maybe?) the best comp physically would be Ron Artest (minus the crazy) for whom I can't find any measurements.

Per DX, he's inconsistent defensively but with his physcial profile and our coaching and frontline behind him, I think he could definitely improve there.

At 30 you could do a whole lot worse.

Yeah, I mean, it was a known he was going to measure out less than stellar. He isn't a starting 4. I view him more as an energy player off teh bench to match when other teams go small. The question on him is if he can play good minutes at the 3.

I'm firmly on Jackson at 24 and Kuzma at 30 though, at least for now. Subject to change during tomorrow's scrimmages most likely.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ojeleye should be in play at #30, as should Wilson, Bryant, Swanigan, Adebayo and whoever slips a bit (like Leaf, Lydon, ??). There is a surplus of bigs in the late first.

I also wouldn't be shocked to see the Jazz take Cameron Oliver at #30. He's going to rise the more he works out for teams.

Oliver isnt close to as good as Kuzma. Today proved it.