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"The Jazz are bound to shoot [Milos] Teodosic an offer sheet."

Joncolton said:
That's not a bad idea at all IMO. Though Locke seemed to be hinting towards someone who would entice Hayward to sign with Utah. I seem to recall he mentioned Damian Lillard, Ricky Rubio and Goran Dragic as possibilities. For the purposes of attracting Hayward, I'm not sure that Milos is that guy. Then again, maybe he is. Who knows?
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Rubio is the only one I see as plausible unless we made a huge offer the others aren't coming. I wouldn't see it as the convincing plan A... more of a we have a backup plan should Hill not stay. I think Hills market takes a hit... Sacramento gets a pg in draft... I don't think BKN makes The Godfather offer and philly likely chases holiday... maybe drafts monk... but the megamax for Hill might hamper their ability to keep their group together.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Locke brought up one scenario... we have excess cap space we could use on an international player that would serve as a signing bonus. We could sign him to a 2 year 11m deal and give him a 7M bonus for last year that doesn't affect our situation next year. So if a scenario like that comes up then sure let's try it out... much less risky than 3/24-30. And much more tradeable/stretchable if it fails in some form or fashion. Could also do like 9 M bonus... 8 M next year and a mutual opt out for the following year to protect everyone. One year 17 M guaranteed? Tough to pass up and Europe would be waiting for him if he flamed out.
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A signing bonus is paid up front (as the name indicates) and for salary cap purposes, is averaged out over the length of the contract.
 
infection said:
I could see all of those other guys being possibilities but how would Lillard be a possibility?
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Blazers are committed to 138 million in salary for next season - for a team that barely made the playoffs, and have 3 first round draft picks this year. Something has got to give. CJ McCollum (25) is younger and a better defender than Lillard (27 in July). It's not unlikely that the Blazers move Lillard this summer. What is unlikely is that the Jazz have the best offer on the table for him. Especially with Paul George potentially on the move, not to mention Carmelo Anthony, Jimmy Butler, Jahill Okafor, Brook Lopez, Andre Drummond, Robin Lopez, Wilson Chandler, Ricky Rubio, etc.

On the other hand, Portland has shown a fascination with players on the Jazz roster before, so who knows!?
 
Joncolton said:
Blazers are committed to 138 million in salary for next season - for a team that barely made the playoffs, and have 3 first round draft picks this year. Something has got to give. CJ McCollum (25) is younger and a better defender than Lillard (27 in July). It's not unlikely that the Blazers move Lillard this summer. What is unlikely is that the Jazz have the best offer on the table for him. Especially with Paul George potentially on the move, not to mention Carmelo Anthony, Jimmy Butler, Jahill Okafor, Brook Lopez, Andre Drummond, Robin Lopez, Wilson Chandler, Ricky Rubio, etc.

On the other hand, Portland has shown a fascination with players on the Jazz roster before, so who knows!?
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We're legit contenders with Lillard. Problem is that we're gonna have to take a terrible contract back to get him.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Seriously, don't you think another team could have offered a better package than that for Lillard?
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Than the corpse of Favors, an $11m fine, a player to be instantly cut, a player who's currently near worthless, and the 28th pick? You crazy.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Seriously, don't you think another team could have offered a better package than that for Lillard?
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Yeah, it's going to be almost impossible for the Jazz to have the best offer on the table. But, time will tell - hopefully after this off-season there will be a nickname transfer and Dennis Lindsey's nickname will be Houdini.
 
Jazz4ever said:
A signing bonus is paid up front (as the name indicates) and for salary cap purposes, is averaged out over the length of the contract.
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We would pay him for last year... it would operate like a salary bonus but hot last year's cap not this year's.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Locke brought up one scenario... we have excess cap space we could use on an international player that would serve as a signing bonus. We could sign him to a 2 year 11m deal and give him a 7M bonus for last year that doesn't affect our situation next year. So if a scenario like that comes up then sure let's try it out... much less risky than 3/24-30. And much more tradeable/stretchable if it fails in some form or fashion. Could also do like 9 M bonus... 8 M next year and a mutual opt out for the following year to protect everyone. One year 17 M guaranteed? Tough to pass up and Europe would be waiting for him if he flamed out.
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That's interesting.

What the hell is a mutual opt out though? Doesnt every contract have a mutual opt out? If both parties are like yeah lets stop doing then they can stop doing it: See Derek Fisher.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
That's interesting.

What the hell is a mutual opt out though? Doesnt every contract have a mutual opt out? If both parties are like yeah lets stop doing then they can stop doing it: See Derek Fisher.
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I think rondo has one. It's a team option and a player option... so if he goes bananas then wants a raise he can opt out... if he sucks we can too.
 
ONE LOVE said:
In case nobody's seen him play .... (like me)



Bonus point for anyone spotting a former jazzman watching in the stands.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dBua8WwxWY
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Well atleast we know he can kick NBA 3rd stringers asses. Shane Larkin was absolutely NO MATCH for Milos. That passing is on some elite **** too. Bring him on.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Locke brought up one scenario... we have excess cap space we could use on an international player that would serve as a signing bonus. We could sign him to a 2 year 11m deal and give him a 7M bonus for last year that doesn't affect our situation next year. So if a scenario like that comes up then sure let's try it out... much less risky than 3/24-30. And much more tradeable/stretchable if it fails in some form or fashion. Could also do like 9 M bonus... 8 M next year and a mutual opt out for the following year to protect everyone. One year 17 M guaranteed? Tough to pass up and Europe would be waiting for him if he flamed out.
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Can we do this or is the "bonus" spread out over the life of the contract like Jazz4ever stated?

To me, spreading it out totally defeats the purpose and does nothing to help us. As a professional, I would hope Locke knows what the heck he's talking about here. Can anyone clarify one way or another?
 
I'm very much a fan of getting Teo on this team. He's really the only option we have with George Hill leaving if that happens, unless we sign-and-trade with someone.
 
So listening to Locke this morning, he says that we CAN sign Teo before July 1st. Since we still have the cap space, we could do a 4 year, 30 million dollar deal for him to play for the next 3 seasons. We could have last season count as the first year of his deal, even though he didn't play for us. That would give us a pretty significant advantage over what other teams could offer, and we could make it so the deal is EXTREMELY cap-friendly moving forward.
 
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