Kanter being detained in Romania
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Enes is licking usa' *** a lot recently because he knows he has no country now. I understand u say, i like this country its great to live in but if u just say its the best country in the world while u only lived last couple yrs of ur life, i call you either an imbecil who tries to be someone else, or you are seriously in need of help.
No american citizen who has mind would just go to a european country and say, ohh yeah im born in the wrong place this is the best place in the world... That looks so dumb to me. This guy has a shortage of character...
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I'm glad my family hasn't disowned me for my differing political views. Maybe because I'm not famous? Or because they aren't worried about reprisals by their government?
Good luck to Kanter - he is definitely paying a price for his opinions.
Good luck to Kanter - he is definitely paying a price for his opinions.
He will talk thrash behind Oklahoma after he is traded, dont worry. He has lack of character
addictionary
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Gulen Cult appears to be a Radical Islamist one by doctrine, but the catch is that the entire cult and especially their leader have always been pro-American more than normal levels. As a matter of fact Gulen is rumored to always believe and emphasize that the only way there is is to acknowledge USA's greatness and ally with them.
There were a lot of theories and even documents as proof that Gulen had strong ties with the CIA. One or more leaked CIA reports included informations like the USA should support movements like Gulen's against radical Islamism as a model of contemporary Islamism.
There were a lot of theories and even documents as proof that Gulen had strong ties with the CIA. One or more leaked CIA reports included informations like the USA should support movements like Gulen's against radical Islamism as a model of contemporary Islamism.
How do you feel about Erdogan’s security detail attacking protestors in the USA? I have not read too much about this but its pretty crazy for this to happen. I wonder if the US is going to do something about it.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...o-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
addictionary
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It's embarrassing and fits him like a glove. He is known for walking around everywhere with his security detail which is around 1500 in numbers. And these guards are known for viciously attacking anyone that protests him. You can you your search engine to find more knews lile that about them.
He and the people around him are in a hypnosis of sweet political and economical power right now. Power draws the weaker minds like flies. And this is exactly what is happening in Turkey for the last 15 years.
The protestors may be pro-PKK which I don't support and see as a violent terrorist organization, but in a country of free spech against people that that protest in a way that is normal in that country is showing the disturbing level of Erdogan and his organization's arrogance.
Power and self-confidence can be very dangerous in wrong people's hands.
Watch out for Trump. He resembles our guy in a lot of ways. This is not a joke.
♪alt13
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Turkey and the PKK, Israel and Hammas. When you fail to recognize the rights of a people to free association and self determination this is going to happen. Both countries need to be less nationalistic and realize that it is easier to be neighborly than it is to hold your neighbors captive. Palestine should be a nation state and so should Kurdistan.
addictionary
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Of course, PKK is just a bunch of freedom fighters that just demands to form Kurdistan.
It must be nice to live in US and enjoy going politically correct on bloody conflicts.
♪alt13
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Are you saying that Hammas are freedom fighters?
The Turkish government have cultivated the strength of the PKK through their Kurdish policies. Just as Israel has cultivated the strength of Hammas. Both organizations give the respective governments that they oppose political cover to terrorize the people, Palestinians and Kurds, that share a cultural identity with those organizations.
If his tweet today was translated correctly after news of his arrest being declared, he is even more immature than I thought.
Kanter Is lucky he is rich and has support from even more rich people who care about protecting their investment in him and his basketball skills.
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Joncolton
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Basketball is one thing. These are peoples lives and freedom being taken away - I can't joke about Kanter in regards to this matter. Especially when you consider his family may have disowned him simply so that they aren't imprisoned or killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9mpfBxFc3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9mpfBxFc3c
homeytennis
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If he is on the opposite side of the current President he can't go back to Turkey. I think there is a rich guy living in Pennsylvania who has arrest warrants out for him because he differed politically from the current Turkey President.
mellow
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I don't know why the security guards are immune from prosecution under US laws or civil law suits in US courts.
I'm not sure what to make of Enes. Enes the basketball player was not a fit for the Jazz, but Enes the human was a likable goof-ball. Now I don't know if he is a hero for standing up to power, or a dough-head not understanding the seriousness of the games he is playing.
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I was never a fan of Kanter but I do think he was mismanaged by the Jazz, mainly because of the Corbin era during which KOC backed up Corbin by not allowing Kanter and Favors to develop by trading for Big Al and keeping Sap which to a degree also stunted Favors' growth. I think that was when the emphasis should've been put on Kanter's defense and lateral movement. It never happened and now he is a one-dimensional player, all offense and very weak defense. So, his disenchantment with Utah is understandable.
However, I think he is actually being courageous in standing up to the dictator, and it wouldn't at all surprise me if his family is taking the position they are because of fear of reprisal.
However, I think he is actually being courageous in standing up to the dictator, and it wouldn't at all surprise me if his family is taking the position they are because of fear of reprisal.
Laramie
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What we're hearing in Oklahoma: Turkey seeks to arrest Kanter.
Saturday, May 27, 2017 | By Brett Dawson Staff Writer bdawson@oklahoman.com
Enes Kanter is a man without a country.
The Thunder center said as much this week, but the point was underscored on Friday.
Kanter's home nation of Turkey has issued a warrant for his arrest, said Hadis Fetic, executive assistant to the Thunder center, ensuring his arrest if he returns there.
The basis for the warrant is that Kanter has affiliated himself with the Hizmet movement, which the Turkish government considers a terrorist organization. Kanter has voiced his public support of the movement and its founder Fetullah Gulen and has been a vocal critic of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, this week comparing him to Adolf Hitler.
Though he is a Turkish citizen, Kanter is in the United States on a green card as a Lawful Permanent Resident, and he has not been charged with any crime here.
As such, he's in no danger of arrest in the U.S., nor of being extradited to Turkey, said Joshua Landis, head of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma.
Gulen, a Turkish preacher and political figure who founded the Hizmet movement — it's also known as the Gulen movement — lives in exile in Saylorsburg, Penn.
The Turkish government has demanded Gulen's extradition to Turkey, but the U.S. has not complied, and its reasoning, Landis said, also protects Kanter.
“America has not agreed that the Gulen group is a terrorist group. ... Therefore, we can't extradite on the basis that (Kanter) is a terrorist," he said.
The United States would require proof of terrorist activity in a court of law, Landis said, to extradite a lawful resident.
The Turkish government blames Gulen's followers for a failed coup last year and has arrested more than 100,000 people in Turkey, accusing them of being involved in the coup attempt, Landis said last week.
After Kanter publicly criticized Erdogan last year, his parents publicly disowned him. Kanter hasn't spoken with them since and said he fears that they would be arrested if he tried to contact them.
The Daily Sabah, a pro-government newspaper in Turkey, first reported the on the warrant for Kanter. Acording to a translation by international news agency AFP, the publication said Turkey would apply for an Interpol “red notice,” which would flag Kanter as a potential terrorist.
A red notice wouldn't affect travel within the United States, and the U.S. likely can work out an agreement with Canada, Landis said, to allow Kanter to travel to Toronto for games against the Raptors.
Kanter's recent troubles began on his 25th birthday.
On May 20, Turkey invalidated his passport. That led to Kanter's detainment in Bucharest, Romania, during a global tour with his Enes Kanter Light Foundation.
Kanter was detained for about four hours but ultimately was allowed to fly to London and then New York City, where he has an offseason home. Kanter said at a news conference on Monday that he will seek U.S. citizenship.
Early Friday, Kanter responded to a report of the warrant with a post on his Twitter account in Turkish. According to AFP's translation, it said “You cannot catch me. Hahaha. Don't waste your energy. I am already going to come (to Turkey) to spit on all of your ugly, hate-filled faces.”
But any travel to Turkey is unlikely — and would be ill-advised.
“There would have to be proof that he's extraditable under American law, and that will not be forthcoming, obviously,” Landis said. “On the other hand, it means he can never go home again — not as an American citizen, not as a Turkish citizen. They're really driving home the message that, ‘You'll never come home again.'”
Contributing: Staff Writer Erik Horne
https://newsok.com/article/5550306https://
Saturday, May 27, 2017 | By Brett Dawson Staff Writer bdawson@oklahoman.com
Enes Kanter is a man without a country.
The Thunder center said as much this week, but the point was underscored on Friday.
Kanter's home nation of Turkey has issued a warrant for his arrest, said Hadis Fetic, executive assistant to the Thunder center, ensuring his arrest if he returns there.
The basis for the warrant is that Kanter has affiliated himself with the Hizmet movement, which the Turkish government considers a terrorist organization. Kanter has voiced his public support of the movement and its founder Fetullah Gulen and has been a vocal critic of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, this week comparing him to Adolf Hitler.
Though he is a Turkish citizen, Kanter is in the United States on a green card as a Lawful Permanent Resident, and he has not been charged with any crime here.
As such, he's in no danger of arrest in the U.S., nor of being extradited to Turkey, said Joshua Landis, head of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma.
Gulen, a Turkish preacher and political figure who founded the Hizmet movement — it's also known as the Gulen movement — lives in exile in Saylorsburg, Penn.
The Turkish government has demanded Gulen's extradition to Turkey, but the U.S. has not complied, and its reasoning, Landis said, also protects Kanter.
“America has not agreed that the Gulen group is a terrorist group. ... Therefore, we can't extradite on the basis that (Kanter) is a terrorist," he said.
The United States would require proof of terrorist activity in a court of law, Landis said, to extradite a lawful resident.
The Turkish government blames Gulen's followers for a failed coup last year and has arrested more than 100,000 people in Turkey, accusing them of being involved in the coup attempt, Landis said last week.
After Kanter publicly criticized Erdogan last year, his parents publicly disowned him. Kanter hasn't spoken with them since and said he fears that they would be arrested if he tried to contact them.
The Daily Sabah, a pro-government newspaper in Turkey, first reported the on the warrant for Kanter. Acording to a translation by international news agency AFP, the publication said Turkey would apply for an Interpol “red notice,” which would flag Kanter as a potential terrorist.
A red notice wouldn't affect travel within the United States, and the U.S. likely can work out an agreement with Canada, Landis said, to allow Kanter to travel to Toronto for games against the Raptors.
Kanter's recent troubles began on his 25th birthday.
On May 20, Turkey invalidated his passport. That led to Kanter's detainment in Bucharest, Romania, during a global tour with his Enes Kanter Light Foundation.
Kanter was detained for about four hours but ultimately was allowed to fly to London and then New York City, where he has an offseason home. Kanter said at a news conference on Monday that he will seek U.S. citizenship.
Early Friday, Kanter responded to a report of the warrant with a post on his Twitter account in Turkish. According to AFP's translation, it said “You cannot catch me. Hahaha. Don't waste your energy. I am already going to come (to Turkey) to spit on all of your ugly, hate-filled faces.”
But any travel to Turkey is unlikely — and would be ill-advised.
“There would have to be proof that he's extraditable under American law, and that will not be forthcoming, obviously,” Landis said. “On the other hand, it means he can never go home again — not as an American citizen, not as a Turkish citizen. They're really driving home the message that, ‘You'll never come home again.'”
Contributing: Staff Writer Erik Horne
https://newsok.com/article/5550306https://