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Ok, here's a scenario:

Yahtzee... you are losing but only down by 20 pts.... the game is almost over as you have one slot left @ four of a kind.
Your first roll was three one's, one two, and one five. Two rolls left, do you go for the Yahtzee (50 pts), or do you pick up all of the dice and re-roll them because you need a higher number four of a kind to top 20 points?

(hint: you are the Jazz playing Yahtzee)
 
billyshelby said:
Far as I'm concerned, we'll be in the playoffs next year. Should be fun to watch.
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I'd rep you but I've given 2 many out. So i'll get you next time.

And yeah I hope it's really fun to watch. I'm excited for the direction that the Jazz our going. But, I hate watching games when they lose!! Especially close games!! So, here's to a Jazz, playoff run for 2012!!
 
Actually, I was quite bored with watching our team until the trade. I enjoyed watching Hayward and Favors play the last few games. We have some serious potential with those two. If we draft well, even if one of our two picks pans out, we could have a fun team to watch next year.
 
CALJAZZFAN said:
Actually, I was quite bored with watching our team until the trade. I enjoyed watching Hayward and Favors play the last few games. We have some serious potential with those two. If we draft well, even if one of our two picks pans out, we could have a fun team to watch next year.
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This. I had a great time watching the team after the trade. Everything before that was depressing and painful. Even the comeback wins were sketchy. Fools gold.
 
VINYLONE said:
**** man. First, I know the simple solution is to cry harder. Extremely.

But, truth be told, I am a little bored. So, a new thread.

I am not excited about next year like I am about every forthcoming season. Once Williams was traded, who I loved to watch play, when healthy, I lost a lot of interest in this team.

I mean, I want to be excited, because the Jazz are my team, but like Main Source used to say, I can't fake the funk.

Im hoping the emergence of the kid can get me excited again. I also hope Favors does something, anything next year.

That said, here are the players I would not trade and the players I would:

Would not trade:
None

Would trade:
All of them
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I feel you here. I often joked that I wanted the Jazz to trade DWill or to see him blow out his knees so I would lose what remaining interest I have in the NBA. I doubt I'll ever not root for the Jazz, but I've become completely disenfranchised from everything else NBA. In the span of 4-5 years I've went from watching every game possible to almost nothing but Jazz games. I don't even care to root against the Lakers or that little bitch Dirk anymore. Now the Jazz have become almost unwatchable, and since that trade has happened I see that path growing wider, although I didn't really want it to come.

On the other hand I'm optimistic as anyone that the Jazz have a huge pile of highly valuable pieces. Rumor was that Millsap is highly valued around the league, and why not? Hayward just blew up the charts. Favors is a big dude with helluva lot of raw talent. 2 draft picks. Harris can be sold high (or sober?). AK is finally off the books. He and CJ are sign-and-trade chips. Memo is an expiring worth dangling. This team could get good really quick.

I'm torn.
 
VINYLONE said:
Nah, bro. I completely understand the situation we're in. Completely. I wasn't into rebuilding again, I guess. I've been through this before. Im not going anywhere, this is my team for the long haul. I just dont feel any connection to the team.
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I am in agreement. That is why I have kind of switched from focusing on the team to watching individual players more. It will take a while for the team to be fun to watch again, but I can really enjoy those games when Hayward demolishes the Lakers and Favors goes off for a 20 and 20 (I can hope can't I?).
 
JazzSpazz said:
Ok, here's a scenario:

Yahtzee... you are losing but only down by 20 pts.... the game is almost over as you have one slot left @ four of a kind.
Your first roll was three one's, one two, and one five. Two rolls left, do you go for the Yahtzee (50 pts), or do you pick up all of the dice and re-roll them because you need a higher number four of a kind to top 20 points?

(hint: you are the Jazz playing Yahtzee)
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As fast as you can you sign that 2 to a max contract and then extend the 5 even though it won't do you any good on the next roll. Then you just sit on the other 3 hoping they will turn into something different than what they are.

Then you take the 0 and try again next game.
 
Im more excited than in quite a while. I KNOW it wont be the same old same old 50 win, no real chance to go all the way.
This what so many haters were crying for these last few years. The Jazz finally do it (blow it up) start it again, and most of those same people say they are mad. Be careful what you ask for I guess.
I look forward to the next few years.
 
Originally Posted by JazzSpazz
Ok, here's a scenario:

Yahtzee... you are losing but only down by 20 pts.... the game is almost over as you have one slot left @ four of a kind.
Your first roll was three one's, one two, and one five. Two rolls left, do you go for the Yahtzee (50 pts), or do you pick up all of the dice and re-roll them because you need a higher number four of a kind to top 20 points?

(hint: you are the Jazz playing Yahtzee)
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LogGrad98 said:
As fast as you can you sign that 2 to a max contract and then extend the 5 even though it won't do you any good on the next roll. Then you just sit on the other 3 hoping they will turn into something different than what they are.

Then you take the 0 and try again next game.
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Ok, I will translate my original thought.
You go for the win, you don't re-roll everything and hope it turns out ok.
Basically I don't think we trade away the whole team and hope it works out for a win... I think we keep the good pieces that help give us a good team, and go that direction.

In my opinion we keep Hayward, Favors, Evans, AJ, resign Watson and use any of the other players on contract as bait to get someone that will work on our team. I like Sap, but I think we can fill a need by using his trade value.
 
I suppose the reason I'm slightly optimistic is that unlike how most teams rebuild, we already have a solid core. Yes, we traded our star player, but we have two players who have the potential to bud into star players. Granted we don't know if that will happen, but it is exciting to watch.

I enjoy the fact that we realized that our core of DWill/Jefferson/Kirilenko etc. wasn't going to cut it and made a change. C'mon Vinyl, we have two young studs growing up in front of us. We have a 19 year old 6'10 250 pound athletic freak with skills and a good work ethic and a 21 year old 6'8 shooting guard that has actual playmaking ability. That's the type of core that you can build a championship team around. Perhaps I'm overly optimistic, but that's where I see us going. Now as for the playoffs next year.....I doubt it. We all know how hard the Western Conference is, hell you basically need to win 50 games to make it as an 8 seed, I just don't see us making the playoffs. But I am excited for the future. Just lay back, relax and enjoy the ride. Sure they're gonna struggle, but they're also gonna grow up a ton and that's the fun part.
 
Jazz scenario for next year:

Win : OKC (after their 22 or whatever win season they was a playoff team that won 50 games and gave the Lakers a run for their money)
Lose : Being a mid lotto team, or worse.

I don't see us not being able to make the playoffs next year. Our team never got the time to gel in with eachother and such. Give them a couple of months to mesh, and we could be looking at a damn good team. Especially if Favors and the Gayword progress.
 
Scorpjazz said:
This what so many haters were crying for these last few years. The Jazz finally do it (blow it up) start it again, and most of those same people say they are mad. Be careful what you ask for I guess.
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Wait what? Who was advocating that?
 
VINYLONE said:
Wait what? Who was advocating that?
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Hmmmmm That would be me. I wanted the Okur and Boozer dual broken up, and I wanted O'Conner to make a major player for major player trade for once in his life as the Jazz GM. The Jazz were never going to win a championship with Boozer as a undersized power forward and slow as molasses Okur at center. I also wanted Sloan to retire, but I did not like how it ended. I for one am excited about our future, unless O'Conner blows it.
 
I am fascinated to see what changes KOC and Ty is going to make next year. Here is my list in no particular order.

1. What will the Jazz do in the draft.
2. Will Ty have the guts to have Millsap come off the bench and start Favors.
3. Will the Jazz go after anyone in free agency.
4. Will they resign AK and CJ.
5. Will Harris fit as our PG.
6. Will Ty finally change our defense and quit forcing people to the middle.
7. Will Hayward and Favors progress like we hope.
8. Will Big Al continue to improve and stop holding the ball for 15 seconds.
9. Will the Jazz buy out Raja or does he have some incriminating photos of KOC and demand his 30 minutes.
10. Will the Jazz return to the playoffs.
11. WILL THERE BE A SEASON NEXT YEAR???

How can we complain that we will be bored with all this going on?
 
sojodave said:
I am fascinated to see what changes KOC and Ty is going to make next year. Here is my list in no particular order.

1. What will the Jazz do in the draft.
2. Will Ty have the guts to have Millsap come off the bench and start Favors.
3. Will the Jazz go after anyone in free agency.
4. Will they resign AK and CJ.
5. Will Harris fit as our PG.
6. Will Ty finally change our defense and quit forcing people to the middle.
7. Will Hayward and Favors progress like we hope.
8. Will Big Al continue to improve and stop holding the ball for 15 seconds.
9. Will the Jazz buy out Raja or does he have some incriminating photos of KOC and demand his 30 minutes.
10. Will the Jazz return to the playoffs.
11. WILL THERE BE A SEASON NEXT YEAR???

How can we complain that we will be bored with all this going on?
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Wow man you have really put some thought into that. Sorry i'm all repped out :(
 
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