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Following potential 2017 draftees...

I really want Collins. I think he's the perfect backup 5 , the perfect starting stretch 4 who can play both ways, and has enough quickness and toughness. With Favors, Johnson and Diaw all up at year end (or earlier if we opt out of Diaw), Bolomboy far from proven, no long-term stretch 4 on the roster to fit Quin's style, and Withey as the backup center also likely gone or at least in question given his personal issue at year end, Collins fits and fills multiple roles and needs.

If he slips and is still on the board around 13, we have to seriously consider trading 24, a 1st next year, and Burks, or something like this, to move up to get him. If we could get him while also retaining Favors (at least until the deadline anyway) and our other core players, we could be damn formidable. We'd still have the 30th pick and our two seconds to pick up other guys on the cheap and fill other needs but I think Collins is the most well-rounded player who can contribute now at multiple positions in the short-term and be a starter in the long-term who is in our trade range. I'm not sure if that's enough to get him but him, Semi at 30 and whoever else after that would be a haul.

Hill-Exum-Neto-2nd
Hood-Ingles-2nd
Hayward-Semi
Favors-Johnson-Bolomboy
Gobert-Collins

Hell, maybe we even sign Bogut on the cheap too for a helluva presence and with Semi, a lot of added toughness.
 
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That roster would have a lot of youth to get VERY excited about (Exum, Collins, Semi) and yet also our core in Gobert, Hayward, Hill and Ingles locked up long-term. Favors may walk at year-end but he could be traded. Hell, maybe he'd re-sign on the cheap if he's mediocre again.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
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That roster would have a lot of youth to get VERY excited about (Exum, Collins, Semi) and yet also our core in Gobert, Hayward, Hill and Ingles locked up long-term. Favors may walk at year-end but he could be traded. Hell, maybe he'd re-sign on the cheap if he's mediocre again.
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I'm sure the Jazz really like Collins, and they're asking themselves how versatile a player he can become. His shooting seems legit, and his rebounding and shot blocking make him arguably as strong a prospect overall as Markanen. He could go anywhere from 9 - 13, imo.
 
BTP said:
Winning a single elimination bracket doesn't necessarily mean you're really good at something. I'm just curious about the context of the team.
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OK. They finished the regular season as the 5th ranked team and won the Championship, but they weren't really good. Got it.
 
Ford has us picking the two Latvians Andzejs Pasecniks and Kurucs. Backup center is still a place of need and Kurucs has definite long term potential. Maybe see him in 3 years.
 
r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
He shot 38+% from three as a rook. Not a long list of players have done that, and plenty of those players turned out great.

https://www.basketball-reference.co...comp=gt&c2val=100&c6mult=1.0&order_by=fg3_pct
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He shot 32% last year and his lone year in college was 14%. Combine that with his poor free throw shooting (for a "shooter") and I'm not sure you can bank on him shooting 38% from here on out.

His terrible defense and rebounding are such that he NEEDS to shoot 38% or higher to justify being on the court.

Jury is still out, but I'm really skeptical that he is a good shooter.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
OK. They finished the regular season as the 5th ranked team and won the Championship, but they weren't really good. Got it.
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I don't know why I even bothered rephrasing my question even though I basically knew you'd dodge what I was interested in. I guess I'm insane.
 
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