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Exum Putting In Some Work

DownUnder said:
it doesn't look bad, it looks bloody horrendous Plus mouth breathing is inefficient
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Its a pretty good way to get promoted at my work. Mouth breathing and general incompetence seem to be the golden ticket round here.
 
Quin's Murderface said:
I don't think Exum is going to be able to be an effective NBA PnR player without actually getting to do it consistently. There has to be a point where you let a guy play a specific role. right now he is artificially limited by what they allow him to do. He might fail if given a larger workload, but it is anything but certain that he will. his results have been mixed, which makes it possible to see his career going in many directions.

Assuming he works hard this summer, I want him to be put into a primary ballhandling role and let him gain experience next year. If that is with a second team unit, and he also plays off the ball sometimes I'm fine with that. But this idea that he should play as a spot-up shooter (he's not a floor spacer at all) in this offense, yet somehow magically learn how to be a PG is ridiculous. Let him fail or succeed, and if he can't handle being a pg then he's probably not going to be a good NBA player for the Jazz anyway.
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I agree he needs reps. It's just hard to balance attacking and facilitating when you are the pg or primary ball handler. If he starts off ball and is told to attack when he gets it that is a starting point to working on the rest... would take some of the thinking out for him and take the edge off of his mistakes. I don't know if he needs another pg but I'd put a steady ball handler and facilitator out there with him. He can bring it up but I'd rather have someone else really initiating things.

He's a unique player and I don't know what to think of him at all. If he works his *** off he could be that guy but we are in a bind with Haywards FA. Not that it's exums fault but he's a year late. The injury hurt the timetable for us... he needs to make a natural leap and take a few catch up steps... gonna be tough.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
If the jazz don't resign Hill, I want Exum to start at pg. the jazz showed they could win consistently with Exum starting, and giving him the the job to start training camp would be huge to his confidence.

He was drafted 5th overall, and its time to give him his shot.
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If you give a moment's thought to DL's responsibilities as General Manager, you would realize that he cannot go into next season expecting Exum to be our starting point guard.
 
Ellipse said:
If you give a moment's thought to DL's responsibilities as General Manager, you would realize that he cannot go into next season expecting Exum to be our starting point guard.
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I agree... Exum needs to come and and murder whoever gets the job in practice and camp... pry the job from their dead cold hands.

If Hayward would accept Exum as an adequate starter then sure... I am fairly sure he'd view that as a significant step back and would be more likely to look to greener pastures.
 
Who cares about Exum when Mr. Triple Double is signing right after Hayward does?

Gobert is gonna average like 25 ppl with Westbrook
 
Stoked said:
The substantial growth as a team and in individual players is absolutely something to be proud of. Winning a 1st round series is something to be proud of. The growth in the coaching staff is something to be proud of.

I am not over hurt at getting swept by arguably the best team in the history of the sport. Especially since no one has beaten them and the Jazz did the best. Yes, the Warriors are a problem (a huge one) but I am highly encouraged by the progress of this team.

Now DL needs to do something to push the Jazz even further. Now the hard part begins.
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You are changing the narrative. 90% of your post is irrelevant to what was being talked about.

One guy said we have played GS closer than anyone else. That isn't impressive or something to be proud of.

We got our asses kicked. Plain and simple.
 
green said:
You are changing the narrative. 90% of your post is irrelevant to what was being talked about.

One guy said we have played GS closer than anyone else. That isn't impressive or something to be proud of.

We got our asses kicked. Plain and simple.
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And when taken in the bigger context of what is happening I disagree. Jazz are legit closest to challenging them.

Plain and simple.
 
There was a lot of pressure to win this year to keep Hayward. Next year we play Exum, TreyMamba & Bolomboy more and give them more space to develop on a longer leash. We'll be in the playoffs (assuming we retain GH) but the important thing will be improving over the season and peaking during playoffs.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
If the jazz don't resign Hill, I want Exum to start at pg. the jazz showed they could win consistently with Exum starting, and giving him the the job to start training camp would be huge to his confidence.

He was drafted 5th overall, and its time to give him his shot.
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Anthony bennett was picked 1st overall.
 
I know its not the popular thought but if George Hill doesnt sign I'd like Exum to start. Draft another PG possibly, and keep Neto as 3rd string.

In other words I wont be devastated if Hill doesnt resign. I like Hill, but I worry about his durability, cost, and blocking Exum's development.

Although, Exum wasnt without flaws in the 2nd half I liked his game, and noticed his improvements.
 
Et tu Brute said:
Please?

You think the Jazz can challenge the Warriors without Exum becoming a stud?Give me a break.
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Is that possible? Of course it is. Exum becoming a stud is not the only path to challenging the Warriors.

It would be great if Exum became a stud but I'm not foolish enough to think that is the only way. That's what your question implies.
 
Et tu Brute said:
You think the Jazz can challenge the Warriors without Exum becoming a stud?
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lol, not sure if serious. Why would our possibility of challenging Warriors depend on Exum? He is so irrelevant to our challenge that to even mention him as some kind of important piece is a joke. If anything having healthy Hill or other quality PG and Rudy being healthy would be way more important than whatever progress Exum will make.
 
The PG/Wing argument is not important. If Dante is the starting PG and still sucks at handling the ball, he's barely going to have the ball. If he improves his handle he'll get the all more regardless of his position.

Dante will get the ball more when he's better with the ball. It wasn't beneficial to have him with the ball versus anyone else. There wasn't a wing or guard on roster that he was a better ball handler than last season. He needs to put a ton of work in at the gym to improve his handle, but he also needs to show some game sense. Dante doesn't seem to have a great feel for the game. He always plays with an agenda, and I don't mean that in a good way.
 
KqWIN said:
The PG/Wing argument is not important. If Dante is the starting PG and still sucks at handling the ball, he's barely going to have the ball. If he improves his handle he'll get the all more regardless of his position.

Dante will get the ball more when he's better with the ball. It wasn't beneficial to have him with the ball versus anyone else. There wasn't a wing or guard on roster that he was a better ball handler than last season. He needs to put a ton of work in at the gym to improve his handle, but he also needs to show some game sense. Dante doesn't seem to have a great feel for the game. He always plays with an agenda, and I don't mean that in a good way.
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Plays with an agenda is a little over the top dude. What agenda did he have in his rookie year ? Winning ?

He just hasn't played all that much organised basketball, particularly at the high level. I think he'll still be really good but the combo of his inexperience along with the injury has that timeframe probably not till he's 25-26
 
DownUnder said:
Plays with an agenda is a little over the top dude. What agenda did he have in his rookie year ? Winning ?

He just hasn't played all that much organised basketball, particularly at the high level. I think he'll still be really good but the combo of his inexperience along with the injury has that timeframe probably not till he's 25-26
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I don't really know what you mean by saying it was over the top. The reason why I used that phrase is because Dennis Lindsey used it to describe Ingles. Ingles doesn't have an agenda when he's out on the floor. He takes what the defense gives him and makes the right play.

Dante is not there as a player. He doesn't read the game well, and that is troubling for a player who isn't good enough to force himself on the defense. The reason why he disappears so easily and has ugly moments with the ball is because he commits to what he's doing before it happens. There's not a whole lot of read and react to his game. He has tunnel vision.

He is inexperienced, and he will get better, but you can only improve so much. His current skill and experience levels are huge obstacles right now.
 
Starting Exum next year would be taking a big step back. Start him when he's good enough to start, or if you have no other choice.
 
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