2011 draft.....

[trigg3r]

If we drafted BB at #6 and a point pg at #12 (knight, walker, Jimmer or Reggie), I would see if BB or the number twelve pick looked capable of being a starter by trade deadline and then look to trade Milsap or Harris for a wing player.

Knight and Walker won't be available at 12 from every mock I have seen. Honestly, if we don't move up I would be happy with Biyombo or Knight. Kanter doesn't look like he will be around at 6. Vessely doesn't impress me all that much. Valanciunas looks like a stiff to me(I am not saying I couldn't be wrong about this). I haven't formed an opinion on Jones. From what I have read on here, half the people like him while the other half don't. I guess we will see if we move up or not. Here is my top 4.

1. Irving
2. Williams
3. Kanter/Biyombo
4. Biyombo/Kanter

I still worry a lot about Kanter's knees. So lets see what kind of reports come out concerning that in workouts.

 

[NUMBERICA]

alright, that is the worst ****ing mock I've seen. Not just because of the Jazz selections, but up and down the whole list.

I'm telling you, hackville. It should be NBAdarft.net. Garbage.

 

[Archie Moses]

There's a ton of draft data bases that have a lot of mock draft links. I really enjoy reading a lot of the smaller mock draft sites and blogs.

https://dcprosportsreport.com/NBAMocks.htm

 

[Revolution 9]

You definitely make a point, but that said, BPA regardless of the draft or whatever. The thing that excites me about Biyombo that really no one else in this draft does in the same way is the one word I would describe him as: AGGRESSIVE. And not just aggressive. Not a caveman. Not Fesenko. The guy is POWERFUL, yet he's still fluid and explosive. Quick feet. Quick hands. MONSTROUS arms/wingspan. Carries not just a swagger on the court, but the kind you want (not the kind that leads to chuckers). Carries a DEFENSIVE swagger like you see in KG and few other players. Gets up to shut down the other team.

He's raw on offense, but again, AGGRESSIVE. Knows he can simply overpower people and loves to dunk on people. Knows he can get to the line when he knows he has a strength or quickness advantage, even though he's not a ballhandler. To see a kid that young with so little experience show the savvyness that he does in that regard even being as raw as he is shows an immense talent and a rare intellect.

We've seen what a good head on an amazing body can do with Favors. I think you can actually draw a lot of comparisons between the two, actually, but looking at their respective bodies of work at the same age, Biyombo actually would excite me more because of, again, the aggression he shows. The confidence, the savvyness.

I'm high as **** on this kid, and I think his basement is... well, I don't even know. Players built like him just don't happen a lot. Serge Ibaka is the most worthy comparison I've heard to date, and if you can get that, you've had a good draft.

Good point. Bismack plays aggressive, and takes it at people. Those Euros don't have nearly the fire the Bis does(I'm not buying Vesely's cockyness). Also, I'd rather have a good defender/rebounder with limited offensive game than a offensive player that can't stop anyone. We need to get tougher, and better defensively. Bis looks
like the best choice for the team in that reguard.

Highlight videos, and draft bios only mean so much, but Bismack is the only guy that may be there at 6 that has me excited. I see something in him that I don't see in
the Euros and other players people have at #6.

 

[Qman]

My personal draft board is changing a little.

1. Irving
2. Derrick Williams
3. Kemba Walker
4. Knight
5. Biyombo
6. Jonas Valaciunas
7. Burks
8. Leonard
9. Terrence Jones
10. Kanter

I don't really want to think about players lower than that.

Irving looks like a potential all-star. Derrick Williams could be a more efficient Carmelo. Kemba is going to be a good undersized scoring point. Other than that you are taking talented projects.

Personally I want the team to mirror's Memphis game play of tough athletic players mixed in with skilled players.

I am probably higher on Valaciunas than many. It is just rare for an 7'0" tall player to have his hands and to shoot 70% from the field in a pro league along with 92% from the line.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

My personal draft board is changing a little.

1. Irving
2. Derrick Williams
3. Kemba Walker
4. Knight
5. Biyombo
6. Jonas Valaciunas
7. Burks
8. Leonard
9. Terrence Jones
10. Kanter

I don't really want to think about players lower than that.

Irving looks like a potential all-star. Derrick Williams could be a more efficient Carmelo. Kemba is going to be a good undersized scoring point. Other than that you are taking talented projects.

Personally I want the team to mirror's Memphis game play of tough athletic players mixed in with skilled players.

I am probably higher on Valaciunas than many. It is just rare for an 7'0" tall player to have his hands and to shoot 70% from the field in a pro league along with 92% from the line.

Your mock looks like dog ****.

 

[The Thriller]

Ugh... The Morris bros scream Collins bros to me.

Smart players who just aren't very athletic.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Ugh... The Morris bros scream Collins bros to me.

Smart players who just aren't very athletic.

You might be right, but the Collins' weren't great or versatile scorers. If you're telling me I can have a Jason Collins or Jarron Collins pre-injury that can hit 3s and has a back-to-the-basket game (even if it's not great, just that it exists), I might just go get one of those. Where the playing time comes from is another question.

 

[Jazz4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_-RMKoX9Y&feature=youtu.be

I'm smelling a nefarious smokescreen ordered by KOC here. Find Jonas' worst performance, mislabel his height by one inch (he is 6'11 without shoes per DX), and hopefully convince other GM's to pass. Locke repeatedly shows Jonas unable to finish, but ignores he is a 70% FG shooter in euro league play (that would lead the NBA, by the way). While most prospects stats are based on the weaker spanish, adriatic, baltic, leagues, Jonas has to compound his stats in the much tougher euro league. Are we lucky to have KOC or what?

 

[Qman]

I'll take your word on his alleged scoring ability, but I can't get past his shooting numbers. 44% playing the 4 and only 15% of his shots were 3's. If he's got these great one on one moves, why is he missing so much against inferior defenders? Aminu had the same problem and it's carried over nicely to the pros.

The larger point is both Aminu and Jones might turn out to be good players. But it's going to take years while we're paying them 6 money. It's just a bad bet.

T. Jones has some really good NBA ready moves. He just takes bone-headed shots. If he gets his head on straight he is a one of the best talents in the draft. Personally I am betting against him getting it all figured out.

 

[Qman]

I'm smelling a nefarious smokescreen ordered by KOC here. Find Jonas' worst performance, mislabel his height by one inch (he is 6'11 without shoes per DX), and hopefully convince other GM's to pass. Locke repeatedly shows Jonas unable to finish, but ignores he is a 70% FG shooter in euro league play (that would lead the NBA, by the way). While most prospects stats are based on the weaker spanish, adriatic, baltic, leagues, Jonas has to compound his stats in the much tougher euro league. Are we lucky to have KOC or what?

I am pretty sure that I don't want Jones with out higher pick. But at 12 we could do worse.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Yeah, I'm thinking right now the top four for the Jazz should be pretty set, at least in my mind. Things can change of course, but we have:

1/2. Irving, Williams
3/4. Biyombo, Kanter.

5-12 is really interesting. Knight is probably 5 on my board currently. 6 is wide open. Burks? Don't know if he warrants that high a pick. Vesely seems okay to me to be at six. 7 would probably be Valanciunas. 8 is Burks. 9 is maybe Motiejunas. 10 I guess can be Walker. Not high on him. 11...Kawhi Leonard? 12 is wide open. Fredette? Hamilton? Either Thompson?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think the Jazz will look to go big with their first pick if they don't get into the top 3. They need a real center who likes to rebound to be part of a 3-man big rotation with Favors and Jefferson, someone to basically replace Okur and Fess. So it makes sense to grab a talent like Kanter/Biyombo/Vallanciunas if they're available at 6 or 7. Brandon Knight could change that thinking if he works out and interviews really well, but it's unlikely. I don't think drafting Kemba Walker would really result in more wins.

The second pick is tougher to call. They could look to replace Ronnie Price and Earl Watson with Reggie Jackson or Jimmer. This is most likely, since the Jazz's back court needs help. They could get an SF to play the wing next to Hayward, which would be T. Jones, Vesely or Leonard depending on who is available at 12. If Montiejunas is available, I could see the Jazz taking a flier on him, just because he's a bit of a unique talent who can shoot and who could possibly spend some time at the wing like Tony Kukoc did.

Biyombo/Kanter with the top pick and Jimmer/Jackson/Jones/Montiejunas with the 2nd pick would be a good draft.

 

[mellow]

I watched the video highlights and read Lockes breakdown on utah jazz.com of Jan Vesey and Jonas Valanciunas. I don't like Locke's play by play, but I love him in the offseason. The video breakdowns are great.

KOC may have set him up with a bad game from Jonas Valanciunas. I hope that Locke and the Jazz learned from last years Hayward booing debacle. Locke can break down players, but he better have some nice things to say about all the potential picks just in case.....

After watching Jan Vesey and Jonas Valanciunas, the jazz should find Dr Doofenshmirtz to make them a combinenator and make Janas Veseunas. 6'-11" great hands, shoots a great percentage, active, great leaper, blocks shots, defends in the post adn the wing, lots of enthusiasm and energy. Great system guy.

Make it happen KOC

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

For the record, I think T. Jones is WAY more skilled than Aminu, like not even close.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Alec Burks = Courtney Lee ?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Alec Burks = Courtney Lee ?

NO! I have watched almost all of Colorado's games this year because they were my favorite team and I love Alec Burks game. Burks does have a jumpshot, it could use some improvement, but all in all it is pretty good. Burks is a natural scorer, he can score from anywhere on the. Whether it is dunking, shooting the three ball, or even taking a 15-foot jumpshot he can do it all. My comparison for Burks is Vince Carter, they have the same build, both are very athletic, and their jumpshot/offensive games are very similar.

Alec Burks is the best shooting guard in this draft anyway and Burks averaged 20.5 PPG as a sophmore for Colorado this year so I am all in with taking Burks with the #6 pick or even higher if Irving or Williams weren't available.

 

[BENTLEY]

NO! I have watched almost all of Colorado's games this year because they were my favorite team and I love Alec Burks game. Burks does have a jumpshot, it could use some improvement, but all in all it is pretty good. Burks is a natural scorer, he can score from anywhere on the. Whether it is dunking, shooting the three ball, or even taking a 15-foot jumpshot he can do it all. My comparison for Burks is Vince Carter, they have the same build, both are very athletic, and their jumpshot/offensive games are very similar.

Alec Burks is the best shooting guard in this draft anyway and Burks averaged 20.5 PPG as a sophmore for Colorado this year so I am all in with taking Burks with the #6 pick or even higher if Irving or Williams weren't available.

Wow - quite an endorsement. Sepanol, the poster who has seen many of Kanter's games, raves about him too. It'd be nice to have the info you guys do. But thanks for your testimonies. It does force me to consider Burks a little more.

 

[Hantlers]

I swear I didn't just see somebody compare Alec Burks to Vince Carter....tell me it's just a joke, please.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I think Hayward and Burks could be a good combo together. I see Hayward as are starting sg, but he can move over to sf from time to time to get him some extra minutes and Burks coming off the bench. I think they would cover up each others weaknesses.