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Trump Threatens Nuclear War

What a ****ing moron.

I need to seriously move. Is any corner of this world normal? Like, decent leadership, not too corrupt, solid employment and lifestyle possible?
 
Wes Mantooth said:
What a ****ing moron.

I need to seriously move. Is any corner of this world normal? Like, decent leadership, not too corrupt, solid employment and lifestyle possible?
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Parts of S America seem to be right up this ally. Argentina, Ecuador or Chile. You could make a good living, they stay out of any major conflict, good scenery...

They would also be very far from any priority targets in a war.
 
Stoked said:
Parts of S America seem to be right up this ally. Argentina, Ecuador or Chile. You could make a good living, they stay out of any major conflict, good scenery...

They would also be very far from any priority targets in a war.
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My wife's company probably has offices in all those countries and I could probably get a job teaching at some private school to kids of ex-pats.

But it's never happening. No way MsSerp would be cool with this. She's too traditional, boring, set in her ways, choose the phrase, to do something like this.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
My wife's company probably has offices in all those countries and I could probably get a job teaching at some private school to kids of ex-pats.

But it's never happening. No way MsSerp would be cool with this. She's too traditional, boring, set in her ways, choose the phrase, to do something like this.
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Plus diarrhea tho
 
I think Trump is actually right on this one. NK will keep pushing until the threat of military action against them is credible. The longer the US waits to make it credible the greater the costs of conflict and a corresponding loss in credibility. Kim isn't going to change course because we say pretty please. It will take a heavy dose of credible threats, crippling sanctions, and a substantial carrot for him to alter his actions.
 
addictionary said:
It only takes one mad man with enough access to lethal toys to start the 3rd one.

If you have two though...
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Realistically, Trump is probably the only real trump card whipping madman out there. Kim Jung Un is probably nothing more than a product of his inheritance and shakin what his daddy gave him.
 
♪alt13 said:
I think Trump is actually right on this one. NK will keep pushing until the threat of military action against them is credible. The longer the US waits to make it credible the greater the costs of conflict and a corresponding loss in credibility. Kim isn't going to change course because we say pretty please. It will take a heavy dose of credible threats, crippling sanctions, and a substantial carrot for him to alter his actions.
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Let me go the other way on this: We've all been wrong forever about North Korea.

There is no credible military action that we can threaten unless NK believes we're willing to sacrifice a million casualties in Seoul. We are not monsters and we're not going to do that. That's been true for decades.

Counterpoint: What does Kim really want? To be treated like any other country. To be invited to the stupid state dinners as a head of state. To not be treated like an outlaw for existing.

Is the correct direction of US leadership to move to a position of ambiguity that allows de-esclation? In essence: we are not leaving South Korea as long as they want us, but we are no longer making the toppling of the North Korean regime an explicit goal of US foreign policy.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Let me go the other way on this: We've all been wrong forever about North Korea.

There is no credible military action that we can threaten unless NK believes we're willing to sacrifice a million casualties in Seoul. We are not monsters and we're not going to do that. That's been true for decades.

Counterpoint: What does Kim really want? To be treated like any other country. To be invited to the stupid state dinners as a head of state. To not be treated like an outlaw for existing.

Is the correct direction of US leadership to move to a position of ambiguity that allows de-esclation? In essence: we are not leaving South Korea as long as they want us, but we are no longer making the toppling of the North Korean regime an explicit goal of US foreign policy.
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You're wrong, we are monsters. We have proven that we are time and time again all over the globe. Foreign civilian casualties will evaporate from the calculus when American citizens feel threatened. Jesus christ how many Koreans died only because we felt that the spread of Communism was a threat to us? How do you think we will react when we fear nukes from this tiny state? Answer: Regime change.

Kim is making a miscalculation. He is thinking himself and his nation more capable than they are. I think he thinks he can force a mutually assured destruction scenario similar to our cold war predicament with the USSR. NK is not the USSR and the USA has matured quite a bit as a military power since the sixties. This is a horribly unbalanced conflict that won't end in a stalemate.

...and we haven't even begun to talk about how allowing NK to have intercontinental ballistic missiles armed with nukes, because they already got em, would incentive every other little country we may want to destroy to follow suit.
 
DROP A HYDROGEN BOMB on "KIM JOnG whatever the last part of his name is" his headqtrs!

then go eat a well done steak with ketchup!



problem solved!
 
♪alt13 said:
You're wrong, we are monsters. We have proven that we are time and time again all over the globe. Foreign civilian casualties will evaporate from the calculus when American citizens feel threatened. Jesus christ how many Koreans died only because we felt that the spread of Communism was a threat to us? How do you think we will react when we fear nukes from this tiny state? Answer: Regime change.

Kim is making a miscalculation. He is thinking himself and his nation more capable than they are. I think he thinks he can force a mutually assured destruction scenario similar to our cold war predicament with the USSR. NK is not the USSR and the USA has matured quite a bit as a military power since the sixties. This is a horribly unbalanced conflict that won't end in a stalemate.

...and we haven't even begun to talk about how allowing NK to have intercontinental ballistic missiles armed with nukes, because they already got em, would incentive every other little country we may want to destroy to follow suit.
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Incentivize.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Sure, it's not our families living there.
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If we have any left we'll just drop some on the freeky deeky dutch, just for funzies, then take out Isreal because that one is complicated too. Basically, let's just genocide all over until we have nothing but simple issues left to deal with.

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Bulletproof said:
If we have any left we'll just drop some on the freeky deeky dutch, just for funzies, then take out Isreal because that one is complicated too. Basically, let's just genocide all over until we have nothing but simple issues left to deal with.

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Then, I'm hoping we ship all the blacks out somewhere. Back to Africa. Somewhere else we already bombed. Then nuke them. By that point, we might as well just do the job right.
 
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