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Siro registered a dislike for my post about GMOs. Well, let's hear what he or anyone on the board has to say about it. I know a fair bit and I will be happy to include my two cents. I feel it's an important issue because more and more of the food we eat is or has some GMO in its make-up, and there are serious questions not only about the products but of the way they are cultivated and its effect on our ecology. Everyone should be aware of this issue.
 
And if you want to be intellectually honest, they're GE crops.

Every single crop in existence is genetically modified, only some are genetically engineered.
 
JustTheTip said:
And if you want to be intellectually honest, they're GE crops.

Every single crop in existence is genetically modified, only some are genetically engineered.
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Those plants you're referring to are not genetically engineered like many of the food products we are now eating that are engineered to resist heavy doses of Roundup and the glyphosate that is the main ingredient. There's a lot of controversy about unnatural genetic engineering which is what Genetically Modified Organisms (that's what they typically are called, but technically, evolution is the process of genetic modification as you say) are and how our bodies deal with it -- we haven't been eating them that long, and a lot of scientists are worried about it. But for sure the heavy use of glyphosate is not good for us or the environment. For one, it destroys everything but the GE crop and thus all the micro-organisms that make up the top soil and contribute to the natural ecology thus seriously eroding our top soil. It's unnatural. There's a documentary series about it that's coming up shortly. I can post a link for those who are interested.
 
The anti-GMO stuff is straight BS.

GMOs are BETTER for the environment than non-GMO produce. Non-GMO is a stupid marketing gimmick, and is for the same anti-science crowd that are anti-vaxers.

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Eenie-Meenie said:
Those plants you're referring to are not genetically engineered like many of the food products we are now eating that are engineered to resist heavy doses of Roundup and the glyphosate that is the main ingredient. There's a lot of controversy about unnatural genetic engineering which is what Genetically Modified Organisms (that's what they typically are called, but technically, evolution is the process of genetic modification as you say) are and how our bodies deal with it -- we haven't been eating them that long, and a lot of scientists are worried about it. But for sure the heavy use of glyphosate is not good for us or the environment. For one, it destroys everything but the GE crop and thus all the micro-organisms that make up the top soil and contribute to the natural ecology thus seriously eroding our top soil. It's unnatural. There's a documentary series about it that's coming up shortly. I can post a link for those who are interested.
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I can see that you're highly uneducated on this subject.

Shocker.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Siro registered a dislike for my post about GMOs. Well, let's hear what he or anyone on the board has to say about it. I know a fair bit and I will be happy to include my two cents. I feel it's an important issue because more and more of the food we eat is or has some GMO in its make-up, and there are serious questions not only about the products but of the way they are cultivated and its effect on our ecology. Everyone should be aware of this issue.
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You deserved the dislike. Without GMOS people would starve. will we make some GMOS that have negative consequences possibly even very serious ones? Yes we will but.... we will discontinue our failures and expand and enhance our successes. Let's call it intelligent selection.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Those plants you're referring to are not genetically engineered like many of the food products we are now eating that are engineered to resist heavy doses of Roundup and the glyphosate that is the main ingredient. There's a lot of controversy about unnatural genetic engineering which is what Genetically Modified Organisms (that's what they typically are called, but technically, evolution is the process of genetic modification as you say) are and how our bodies deal with it -- we haven't been eating them that long, and a lot of scientists are worried about it. But for sure the heavy use of glyphosate is not good for us or the environment. For one, it destroys everything but the GE crop and thus all the micro-organisms that make up the top soil and contribute to the natural ecology thus seriously eroding our top soil. It's unnatural. There's a documentary series about it that's coming up shortly. I can post a link for those who are interested.
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I'm only going to discuss the health aspects of GMOs, and not the sometimes immoral behavior of some companies.

We've been using GM crops since the early 80s. Since then, there hasn't been a single piece of evidence that GMOs pose more danger than non-GM foods.

Have you ever seen a wild sheep? No, you haven't. Because there is no such thing. We're not even sure where sheep come from. Because we genetically engineered the **** out of them over the past 10 millennia. The only difference between breeding a characteristic in/out of an organism through traditional methods and genetic engineering is that the latter is faster, more accurate, and with vastly more potential.

My only regret about GMOs is that we're not pushing them far more aggressively. Wish we can have a ton of tailored foods that attempt to do different things with taste, nutritional contents, as well as the typical uses in hardening the crops and reducing the need for pesticides. I'm sure we will in the future, and I look forward to it.

Here's a summary of current mainstream scientific thought.

http://www.loc.gov/law/help/restrictions-on-gmos/usa.php

Several scientific organizations in the US have issued studies or statements regarding the safety of GMOs indicating that there is no evidence that GMOs present unique safety risks compared to conventionally bred products. These include the National Research Council,[12] the American Association for the Advancement of Science,[13] and the American Medical Association.[14]

Groups in the US opposed to GMOs include some environmental organizations,[15] organic farming organizations,[16] and consumer organizations.[17] A substantial number of legal academics have criticized the US’s approach to regulating GMOs.[18]
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Now I'm sure you can find some scientist who claims GMOs give you AIDS or something. After all, scientists are just people. But there is no evidence at the current state of knowledge of any diverse health effects from any available GM crops. It remains possible, of course, that some future product will pose a health risk, or that an existing product might have an undiscovered side-effect. None the less, I take 10000x the risk each time I get into my car, so I'm not going to fret over how every little thing may or may not affect my health.

Speaking of documentaries, I once watched one about an Obama conspiracy to turn the West Muslim. Is this GMO one made by the same guys? Because if that's the case, I'm definitely watching it.
 
I can see many of you are the ones who are uneducated about GE products, which is because you are brainwashed about it. Monsanto has a huge P-R that extends into the large trade organizations mentioned like the AMA. No one took notice of the point about the effect on the ecology, which is very important. I saw a film called the "Symphony of the Soil" that discussed the effect on the soil and ecology from GMOs. Apparently, people here don't take stock in the philosophy of using organic products. The basic idea is the reduction of pesticide use. Sure there are natural pesticides in the plant word, like the lectins produced by nightshade plants (tomatoes, peppers, and potatoes), but they aren't the same as industrial pesticides, which are much more toxic and harmful to the ecosystem and the human organism. The increases in cancer and neurological diseases testifies to this. I think people need to keep an open mind on this and not fall prey to those with profit motives. Do GMO products prevent the world from starving; that's been the cliched argument -- well, organic farmers claim it's not necessary and ironically, GMO products may lead to starvation by destroying the earth's top soil needed to grow crops. I'll post the link to the new series to "educate" those of you who they think they know it all about this issue.
 
Siro said:
I'm only going to discuss the health aspects of GMOs, and not the sometimes immoral behavior of some companies.

We've been using GM crops since the early 80s. Since then, there hasn't been a single piece of evidence that GMOs pose more danger than non-GM foods.

Have you ever seen a wild sheep? No, you haven't. Because there is no such thing. We're not even sure where sheep come from. Because we genetically engineered the **** out of them over the past 10 millennia. The only difference between breeding a characteristic in/out of an organism through traditional methods and genetic engineering is that the latter is faster, more accurate, and with vastly more potential.

My only regret about GMOs is that we're not pushing them far more aggressively. Wish we can have a ton of tailored foods that attempt to do different things with taste, nutritional contents, as well as the typical uses in hardening the crops and reducing the need for pesticides. I'm sure we will in the future, and I look forward to it.

Here's a summary of current mainstream scientific thought.

http://www.loc.gov/law/help/restrictions-on-gmos/usa.php



Now I'm sure you can find some scientist who claims GMOs give you AIDS or something. After all, scientists are just people. But there is no evidence at the current state of knowledge of any diverse health effects from any available GM crops. It remains possible, of course, that some future product will pose a health risk, or that an existing product might have an undiscovered side-effect. None the less, I take 10000x the risk each time I get into my car, so I'm not going to fret over how every little thing may or may not affect my health.

Speaking of documentaries, I once watched one about an Obama conspiracy to turn the West Muslim. Is this GMO one made by the same guys? Because if that's the case, I'm definitely watching it.
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Right? I wanna Curry plant a sushi plant a ***** plant. Come on GMO make me some Christmas presents!
 
EM, you'll also want to avoid contact with dihydrogen monoxide. It kills thousands every year, and even though it is commonly used as an industrial cleaning agent it is perfectly legal to put in our food supply.
 
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