When I ruptured both my Achilles tendons, I still had to go to work, because they weren’t paying me to not work. Nobody really gave a ****. And I made a lot less than Hayward (part of why I had to continue to go to work).
I feel awful for hayward....that leg break...
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When I ruptured both my Achilles tendons, I still had to go to work, because they weren’t paying me to not work. Nobody really gave a ****. And I made a lot less than Hayward (part of why I had to continue to go to work).
MDAV28
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Some of us rooted for Hayward for 7 years and are still stuck in the "terrible fan" mindset of actually rooting for the guy. No not all season-ending injuries are the same. That had a specific brutality and shock factor to it that definitely leaves you a little more uneasy and unsure about the future for somebody who has succeeded so much. Obviously there's a lot more to say about this injury than X's so that comparison is a little off the mark.
Just cause he was in another jersey doesn't make anybody a "bad fan" for being very upset at what has happened to him. And no you're not a "bad fan" for not caring. You just got over rooting for him and accepted the bridge is burned. Some of us haven't and still want him to succeed, even in another jersey. It's ok.
JimLes
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So if Dante had averaged more points last year and had his injury in a televised game, then you'd feel as sorry. Awesome.
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No, it's how you feel about his injury. You said you were glad that it happened.
MDAV28
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You can't be serious.
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Good post. I won't go so far as to say I was going to root for him. But I don't wish him ill-will and do hope that he will make a full recovery.
porcupinetree
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you have no idea how funny that is
JimLes
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Is that not what you said? That you felt worse about Hayward's injury because you got to see it on TV? And how else am I supposed to take "unsure about the future for somebody who has succeeded so much?" Are you not suggesting that because Hayward is a star, it makes a difference somehow?
JimLes
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Of course I'm glad. He did our team dirty. Then something bad happened to him. Are you so holier than though that you never, ever feel good when someone gets their comeuppance?
porcupinetree
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Way off.
I said many here want to be seen as a GOOD PERSON. Not just to be seen.
Big difference.
And it's not just on this board. I see it constantly on facebook.
Yes, I question the sincerity.
Cappy_Smurf
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Dante is on his 2nd serious injury while still on his rookie contract. And on his first injury, we had multiple so-called jazz fans mocking him and somewhat celebrating, saying we'd be a better team without him, including a moderator on this board. Meanwhile, Haywood is sitting on a mountain of cash 150 million deep, and has at least accomplished a few things, such as an all-star appearance.
You hit the nail on the head though, in that people got to see somebody's body being destroyed graphically, which in their minds, makes the injury all too realistic. With Dante, they didn't get to see his body being ripped apart, so it doesn't seem as real. Both injuries are just as serious, in that they will end the player's season.
But yeah, some people still care about Haywood more than Dante without a doubt, and although it doesn't make them a bad fan, it does make them a bad Jazz fan.
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Zombie
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Oh, I see. So we're virtue signalling whereas those making a big show about how little they care are doing what exactly?
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JohnnyClutch
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Face it, come on, be honest. When you saw Ramsey Bolton get eaten by his dogs, part of you was happy that justice was served. You wouldn't do it yourself, but part of you is glad the universe -- or someone over whom you had no influence -- did it for you.
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Plato's Republic, my friends.
Plato says we should be just. Plato's brother, Glaucon, says we should APPEAR to be just. Glaucon wonders what would happen if we had the mythical ring of Gyges, which renders us invisible, so that we can do nasty things, like pushing Hayward in the back when he goes up for an ally-oop, but no one can see us doing it...
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I didn't see it, but some Celtics fans were saying that Crowder did push Hayward in the back. Can anyone verify that?
MDAV28
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That was not a comparison to Dante's. I was saying your comparison of how many posts in each thread is off the mark because there is obviously more to discuss regarding Hayward's. Hayward being a star is a different level of sympathy because you have to be dedicated and work your *** off to get to the level of play he is at. Dante deserves a different level of sympathy because of being so young and full of potential as well as working his way back from another very serious injury. I think saying one is worse or deserves more attention than the other is ridiculous.
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I think I would just sit in a women's locker room all day with an invisible bag of cheetoes. And whoppers.
MDAV28
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Cannot get behind this statement. Some people react differently and that is ok. Many Jazz fans can see Hayward has given more to this team than Dante and have invested more of their fandom rooting for Hayward so reacting differently to a horrific injury to a guy you spent 7 years rooting for does not make you a bad Jazz fan.