Following Potential 2018 Draftees
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I disagree I thin Doncic is more of a facilitator. I think he will struggle at first to score in the NBA
I think you are really ignorant on this subject to an embarrassing degree
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How can you be ignorant to something that hasnt happened yet?
What hasn't happened? Because I know damn sure Doncic has shown an extremely impressive scoring acumen that Porter can't match.
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I agree with both Cy and CD. A few months ago, when Doncic was trending on draftboards I started looking at his games. I thought something about him looked off. He was capable of making very athletic plays, but he still looked (to NBA standards) a lil slow and unathletic. I don't know how to describe it other than he's the most athletic yet unathletic dude I've ever seen. Then it all made sense to me as to why I thought this. He's only 18-years-old and has the body of a 25-year-old. I was shocked to know he was only 18 and playing that well for a great Euro team Real Madrid. He's alreading putting up 14 - 8 - 3 which is amazing in that league. I think he could be the real deal, but I also feel, like CD said, he may struggle at first in the NBA to score. Who knows. That kid plays like a man amongst boys though.
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my thoughts exactly
I think his 3 point shot is so good that he'll be efficient no matter what and he'll make everyone better because he's a primary ball handler who's a dead-eye shooter(ok, i'm exaggerating)
I think Doncic is fine. He can do basically everything and is such a high IQ player that he'll make plays. And actually, I think his athleticism is deceptively good for a 6'8" player. He has good body control, excellent timing and finishes at the rim pretty well. He's not a sky walker, but he can get to the rim and above the rim as he needs to.
fine?
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https://hoopshabit.com/2017/10/31/2018-nba-draft-big-board-late-october/5/
27. Abdoulaye N’Doye, PG, Cholet
N’Doye is a bit of a wildcard, but his 7’2” wingspan is the only number necessary to understand his NBA appeal. It’s not often that you see a 6’7”point guard, much less one with that kind of length. If he’s able to continue adding to his game offensively, the defensive upside alone is enough to get the Frenchman into the first round conversation.
With that being said, we’re still a few years away from seeing what N’Doye can do at full capacity. He’s an iffy shooter at best, and lacks the advanced handles that most first round guards possess. His size gives him an advantage as a playmaker, especially in the pick-and-roll, but he’s nowhere near maximizing that potential yet.
A lead guard who can guard three or four positions and switch at will is something any team would like, though, and N’Doye is the kind of project a competitive team could be willing to take on. He’s flying under the radar, but expect his hype to spike upwards once the draft gets closer.
24. Mikal Bridges, SG/SF, Villanova
Bridges fits almost seamlessly into the 3-and-D label that most analysts like to throw out when it comes to draft prospects. His ceiling isn’t that high, but spot-up shooting and defensive potential should allow him to contribute as a quality role player from day one.
With a 6’6” frame and a wingspan that’s nearing 7’1”, Bridges has the length needed to guard a handful of positions at the next level. His frame has some room left to fill out, but he’s already reasonably strong with the instincts needed to back up those physical tools.
He was a 39.1 percent shooter from deep as well, with the off-ball chops needed to thrive in almost any system. His ball-handling is rudimentary and he poses little to no isolation threat, but he plays his role well enough to find plenty of success without going too far outside his comfort zone.
21. Arnoldas Kulboka, SF/PF, Capo D’Orlando
Through three games on lease to Capo D’Orlando this season, Kulboka is averaging 12 points per contest in over 30 minutes on the floor — all while hitting at a not-so-sustainable rate of 64.3 percent from deep. He’ll obviously cool off in the coming weeks, but his hot start does highlight some of the more promising facets of his game.
Kulboka’s versatility is something NBA teams will love. He’s 6’10” with a near-7’0″ wingspan, and scores reasonably well at all three levels. He’s fluid coming off of screens and spotting up from deep, but is also mobile enough to put the ball on the floor and create his own looks from mid-range.
That comes with some inherent defensive versatility as well. His frame is still way too thin to contain NBA 4s and 5s, but he could feasibly guard three or four positions at his physical peak. He’ll be 20 with plenty of room (and time) to grow by the time June hits.
20. Isaac Bonga, PG/SF, Frankfurt
As somebody who only recently turned 18, there’s a lot that we haven’t discovered yet with Bonga’s game. He has the feel and vision of a point guard, with the size needed to exploit unique angles as a passer. Defense will also be a struggle though, as his athletic profile doesn’t fit as well as one might think across multiple positions.
Bonga shouldn’t be an NBA player next season, as stashing him overseas and waiting on his development is the best course. He’ll make smart plays with the ball and has enough ball-handling skills needed to run an offense, but doesn’t have the creation skills that your typical point guard might boast.
He’s also thin in build and relatively slow-footed for a player who’s supposed to play point guard at his size. He isn’t strong or long enough to handle 2s on a consistent basis, and doesn’t have the lateral mobility to stick with more athletic point guards. Those are some of the challenges that’ll come with trying to unlock his top-20 potential.
18. Troy Brown, SG/SF, Oregon
Brown will join an Oregon team that lost quite a few pieces last season, with Tyler Dorsey, Dillon Brooks and Dylan Ennis being the most notable. That opens up some serious holes on the perimeter, which Brown can help fill.
While he isn’t the explosive athlete that most 5-star prospects are, Brown’s physical tools bode well on the defensive end. He’s 6’6” with a 6’11” wingspan, allowing him to guard across the positional spectrum while playing a gritty, high-I.Q. brand of basketball on that side of the ball.
Offensively, Brown does nice work as both a slasher and a shooter, with passing instincts that tend to fly under the radar. He won’t run the offense per se, but has a nice feel for where his teammates are and can drop some nice dimes when afforded the opportunity. That’s the kind of all-around talent teams crave.
16. Kevin Knox, SF/PF, Kentucky (IF KNOXS FALLS THIS FAR HAPPY DAY)
Standing at 6’9” with a 7’0″ wingspan, Knox has the tools to become one of this year’s more versatile two-way pieces. His physical tools will make him a valuable defender, but it’s the freshman’s offensive game that will determine how high or low his stock is next summer.
One of the foremost issues with Knox is the streaky nature of his jumper. He has a slight hitch in his 3-point shot, but has a level of fluidity and body control that should make him a dangerous go-to scorer for the Wildcats next season. He can handle in transition, create his own look off the bounce and is a noted high-flyer when he gets around the rim. It’s just a matter of consistently hitting long range shots when afforded the opportunity.
Knox could see his stock rise quite a bit with a strong season. He’ll be playing alongside a Kentucky team that won’t have much floor-spacing, which means he’ll have plenty of opportunities to shoot from deep if his shots are falling.
15. Justin Jackson, SF/PF, Maryland
Jackson quickly emerged as the best prospect with his name last season, and will look to continue that momentum in his sophomore year. He’s 6’7” with 7’3” wingspan, giving him the length needed to guard four positions while playing either forward spot offensively. Again, it’s that recurring theme of versatility that makes some prospects so valuable.
In 28.1 minutes per game, Jackson racked up 0.8 blocks and 0.9 steals — numbers he will look to expand upon in a larger role. He’s an excellent roamer, whether that be snaking his way through passing lanes or chasing down weak-side blocks, and has the lateral quickness to stick with guards at a high level. There’s inherent value in any player with that kind of malleability on the defensive end.
Offensively, J-Jax hit on 44.1 percent of his 3-point attempts. There’s a chance that he won’t sustain that kind of efficiency next season, but teams will be looking for another strong campaign shooting the ball to validate him as a potential lottery pick.
14. Jarred Vanderbilt, PF, Kentucky
While a foot injury will keep Vanderbilt out to start the season, recent statements from John Caliapari mean he could be back sooner than the January, which was the original target for his return. Assuming he’s back to full health and performs well before the season’s end, Vanderbilt remains one of the more underrated 5-star freshmen in this year’s class.
There’s a chance that the 6’9” forward waits until next year to make the transition to NBA ball, but his skill-set is something teams could fall in love with early. He’s still iffy as a shooter, but has long arms, plenty of athleticism and a highly diverse group of skills to make up for it.
He’s at his best in the open court, where his court vision allows him to take rebounds and push the ball up court as a bonafide playmaker. He also shows some nice vision in half-court sets, dropping dimes from the high post while boasting some potential in the 4/5 pick-and-roll. He’s as versatile as they come, and should turn some heads upon his eventual Wildcats debut.
27. Abdoulaye N’Doye, PG, Cholet
N’Doye is a bit of a wildcard, but his 7’2” wingspan is the only number necessary to understand his NBA appeal. It’s not often that you see a 6’7”point guard, much less one with that kind of length. If he’s able to continue adding to his game offensively, the defensive upside alone is enough to get the Frenchman into the first round conversation.
With that being said, we’re still a few years away from seeing what N’Doye can do at full capacity. He’s an iffy shooter at best, and lacks the advanced handles that most first round guards possess. His size gives him an advantage as a playmaker, especially in the pick-and-roll, but he’s nowhere near maximizing that potential yet.
A lead guard who can guard three or four positions and switch at will is something any team would like, though, and N’Doye is the kind of project a competitive team could be willing to take on. He’s flying under the radar, but expect his hype to spike upwards once the draft gets closer.
24. Mikal Bridges, SG/SF, Villanova
Bridges fits almost seamlessly into the 3-and-D label that most analysts like to throw out when it comes to draft prospects. His ceiling isn’t that high, but spot-up shooting and defensive potential should allow him to contribute as a quality role player from day one.
With a 6’6” frame and a wingspan that’s nearing 7’1”, Bridges has the length needed to guard a handful of positions at the next level. His frame has some room left to fill out, but he’s already reasonably strong with the instincts needed to back up those physical tools.
He was a 39.1 percent shooter from deep as well, with the off-ball chops needed to thrive in almost any system. His ball-handling is rudimentary and he poses little to no isolation threat, but he plays his role well enough to find plenty of success without going too far outside his comfort zone.
21. Arnoldas Kulboka, SF/PF, Capo D’Orlando
Through three games on lease to Capo D’Orlando this season, Kulboka is averaging 12 points per contest in over 30 minutes on the floor — all while hitting at a not-so-sustainable rate of 64.3 percent from deep. He’ll obviously cool off in the coming weeks, but his hot start does highlight some of the more promising facets of his game.
Kulboka’s versatility is something NBA teams will love. He’s 6’10” with a near-7’0″ wingspan, and scores reasonably well at all three levels. He’s fluid coming off of screens and spotting up from deep, but is also mobile enough to put the ball on the floor and create his own looks from mid-range.
That comes with some inherent defensive versatility as well. His frame is still way too thin to contain NBA 4s and 5s, but he could feasibly guard three or four positions at his physical peak. He’ll be 20 with plenty of room (and time) to grow by the time June hits.
20. Isaac Bonga, PG/SF, Frankfurt
As somebody who only recently turned 18, there’s a lot that we haven’t discovered yet with Bonga’s game. He has the feel and vision of a point guard, with the size needed to exploit unique angles as a passer. Defense will also be a struggle though, as his athletic profile doesn’t fit as well as one might think across multiple positions.
Bonga shouldn’t be an NBA player next season, as stashing him overseas and waiting on his development is the best course. He’ll make smart plays with the ball and has enough ball-handling skills needed to run an offense, but doesn’t have the creation skills that your typical point guard might boast.
He’s also thin in build and relatively slow-footed for a player who’s supposed to play point guard at his size. He isn’t strong or long enough to handle 2s on a consistent basis, and doesn’t have the lateral mobility to stick with more athletic point guards. Those are some of the challenges that’ll come with trying to unlock his top-20 potential.
18. Troy Brown, SG/SF, Oregon
Brown will join an Oregon team that lost quite a few pieces last season, with Tyler Dorsey, Dillon Brooks and Dylan Ennis being the most notable. That opens up some serious holes on the perimeter, which Brown can help fill.
While he isn’t the explosive athlete that most 5-star prospects are, Brown’s physical tools bode well on the defensive end. He’s 6’6” with a 6’11” wingspan, allowing him to guard across the positional spectrum while playing a gritty, high-I.Q. brand of basketball on that side of the ball.
Offensively, Brown does nice work as both a slasher and a shooter, with passing instincts that tend to fly under the radar. He won’t run the offense per se, but has a nice feel for where his teammates are and can drop some nice dimes when afforded the opportunity. That’s the kind of all-around talent teams crave.
16. Kevin Knox, SF/PF, Kentucky (IF KNOXS FALLS THIS FAR HAPPY DAY)
Standing at 6’9” with a 7’0″ wingspan, Knox has the tools to become one of this year’s more versatile two-way pieces. His physical tools will make him a valuable defender, but it’s the freshman’s offensive game that will determine how high or low his stock is next summer.
One of the foremost issues with Knox is the streaky nature of his jumper. He has a slight hitch in his 3-point shot, but has a level of fluidity and body control that should make him a dangerous go-to scorer for the Wildcats next season. He can handle in transition, create his own look off the bounce and is a noted high-flyer when he gets around the rim. It’s just a matter of consistently hitting long range shots when afforded the opportunity.
Knox could see his stock rise quite a bit with a strong season. He’ll be playing alongside a Kentucky team that won’t have much floor-spacing, which means he’ll have plenty of opportunities to shoot from deep if his shots are falling.
15. Justin Jackson, SF/PF, Maryland
Jackson quickly emerged as the best prospect with his name last season, and will look to continue that momentum in his sophomore year. He’s 6’7” with 7’3” wingspan, giving him the length needed to guard four positions while playing either forward spot offensively. Again, it’s that recurring theme of versatility that makes some prospects so valuable.
In 28.1 minutes per game, Jackson racked up 0.8 blocks and 0.9 steals — numbers he will look to expand upon in a larger role. He’s an excellent roamer, whether that be snaking his way through passing lanes or chasing down weak-side blocks, and has the lateral quickness to stick with guards at a high level. There’s inherent value in any player with that kind of malleability on the defensive end.
Offensively, J-Jax hit on 44.1 percent of his 3-point attempts. There’s a chance that he won’t sustain that kind of efficiency next season, but teams will be looking for another strong campaign shooting the ball to validate him as a potential lottery pick.
14. Jarred Vanderbilt, PF, Kentucky
While a foot injury will keep Vanderbilt out to start the season, recent statements from John Caliapari mean he could be back sooner than the January, which was the original target for his return. Assuming he’s back to full health and performs well before the season’s end, Vanderbilt remains one of the more underrated 5-star freshmen in this year’s class.
There’s a chance that the 6’9” forward waits until next year to make the transition to NBA ball, but his skill-set is something teams could fall in love with early. He’s still iffy as a shooter, but has long arms, plenty of athleticism and a highly diverse group of skills to make up for it.
He’s at his best in the open court, where his court vision allows him to take rebounds and push the ball up court as a bonafide playmaker. He also shows some nice vision in half-court sets, dropping dimes from the high post while boasting some potential in the 4/5 pick-and-roll. He’s as versatile as they come, and should turn some heads upon his eventual Wildcats debut.
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Interesting list. There's almost no chance Knox makes it to 16, and I'd be surprised if Justin Jackson makes it to 15.
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I did like their write ups on players.
Just a reminder on the most underrated player in this year's draft. Better than a dude like Knox, 100%.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkG1MnWrR3k
And I give Alize Johnson the runner-up to the award. Not as prestigious, but someone to keep an eye on when Jacob Evans inevitably becomes too hyped for the Jazz to draft and shoots up draft boards.
And I give Alize Johnson the runner-up to the award. Not as prestigious, but someone to keep an eye on when Jacob Evans inevitably becomes too hyped for the Jazz to draft and shoots up draft boards.
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I think Bobby Portis won the Otto Porter Award the year of his draft. Not a strong year for the award.
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I want it to be the runner up award from now on. I think Russell was ya boy in 2015. Starting to look okay there... I blame LA for his issues thus far.
I give Cy crap but he's been good on his declarations of this is my guy picks... although some take time... like Porter.
I've never seen this Evans guy but I think we should take him... maybe twice just to be safe.
This guy isn't the brightest bulb, but has the physical profile and can shoot a bit. He played some AAU with Jared Vanderbilt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FaJl8oO7WI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FaJl8oO7WI